im not sure of the frame data for teleport but I assume its pretty safe seeing as ur at plus god knows what from f21.something I used to do which is proberly a complete waste of time is after hitting a back 3 I would jump 2 dash underneath then teleport behind as they land,proberly better to go for damage I guess,gonna give her a whirl tomorrow.
Yeah that would be good to do now and agin for an extra mixup
Yes, on people that knows the MU that's not a good idea but even for people that knows the MU you can end your combos with F2,3~MB tele behind i to grab, D1 or 1,1,2 but you must delay it a little bit because it will combo if you do it so fast
Yeah I know this but it's good to do after f21 if they don't know the MI which most people don't as know one uses her, any other setups?
ah ok,that's good to know.i maybe figured the advantage after a f21 was enough for a safe teleport but nevermind then.
Nice! I would love to see what you came with!
ive accidentally combo-ed into it lol.... looking forward to your video, i havent tried anything with it!
awesome, ill have to try this tonight! still look forward to the video, thanks for the tip!ill spoil it, then show you some of my set ups in the video as soon it finishes uploading. the higher fire kiss hits, the more advantage you get from it. Normally on hit, its +4. f3 d2 fire kiss can land you +10-15 or more! not only that, it jails your opponent standing. 112 11d3 11u3 are all free which means they HAVE to eat the next mix up. whether it be low kicks or overhead MB rings. 223 is free as well. I tested this with blocking low (stand 1 HAS to be blocked, regardless of its high properties). I also tested with mashing d1, stand 1, super and trying to jump out. d1 mashers end up blocking, stand 1 mashers get hit and jumpers get hit grounded which means u get a full unscaled combo. I have a lil bit more but when my video gets done uploading ill post it
thanks. I have more in depth set ups in the video. Its an interesting mix up for vortexing off of f21 in the corner. Also leaves the opponent closer than f21 does.
Ohh so you mean that fire kiss has more advantage after a D2? Wow very nice, i didn't know it. I thought it was just +4 that's why i never used it but i sill test this outill spoil it, then show you some of my set ups in the video as soon it finishes uploading. the higher fire kiss hits, the more advantage you get from it. Normally on hit, its +4. f3 d2 fire kiss can land you +10-15 or more! not only that, it jails your opponent standing. 112 11d3 11u3 are all free which means they HAVE to eat the next mix up. whether it be low kicks or overhead MB rings. 223 is free as well. I tested this with blocking low (stand 1 HAS to be blocked, regardless of its high properties). I also tested with mashing d1, stand 1, super and trying to jump out. d1 mashers end up blocking, stand 1 mashers get hit and jumpers get hit grounded which means u get a full unscaled combo. I have a lil bit more but when my video gets done uploading ill post it
Ohh so you mean that fire kiss has more advantage after a D2? Wow very nice, i didn't know it. I thought it was just +4 that's why i never used it but i sill test this out
actually after a normal trance if ur opponent is unaware and not blocking, 11u3 223 MB trance f3 d2 fire kiss nets you like 35% into +10 advantage (off of this specific combo, ive gotten up to +15), jailed for your next mix up and obviously left standing. it wouldnt be your go-to for corner vortex, BUT another option to use nonetheless thats just as good. regular trance leaves u -1, the opponent has a 1/4 chance of gaining advantage with a d1 (up+a random button) which means it would be... some what risky, not really, but on paper.. yes. this fire kiss set up wont reverse buttons obviously but it leaves ur opponent rendered useless for +10 or more frames. Like i said.. wouldnt be a go to, but another option outside of f21.
Cool then
its just i cant see a reason to not use it.. when if ur left +10 and ur stand 1 is 5 frames, the opponent is LITERALLY forced to block the next mix up. i havent tried it in a real match yet, still trying to find more stable set ups with it. thanks for the support tho dude.. ill tag u when i get the video up.Cool then
I like using it because I will literally blow them a kiss over the mic, but I never find the place to use it.
I just blow kisses with ex fireball.
Lol, but it sounds pretty interesting
Standing 1 is 6 or 7 frames, and a high.
standing 1 wont miss in the corner, even if they crouch. fire kiss will jail the opponent. frame data in game says standing 1 has 5 frames of start up
Frame data.... lol don't trust the games frame data!!!!!
true. maybe it does tho by blocking it correctly. that variable block stun thing... ya know? lol