Thundergod1
Noob
It's not delusion, it's people thoughts
It's not delusion, it's people thoughts
Why is he not good?
Never happens when i play noob
That's a good question, GO AND CHECK
Not gonna comment about the Geras stuff because I'm not qualified as of yet to give an opinion. I do however feel he could very much receive a buff to his zoning. Why in the hell can Cassie/Sub/Sonya/Erron do the shit they can do at mid~close range and still have superior zoning to the rest of the cast? Even if you gave noob back his powerful clones, he still has a non existent mixup game outside of safe mid/d4/throw, so it wouldn't make him OP at all. Like b3 KB is worthless as no one good will stand block against noob. Clone is the same. It dissappears if he's hit, slow, huge recovery, and lots of things just flat out ignore it. We gotta land that move 10 times for a KB?! Nah try again B. As far as upknee, is there any situation where AA standing 1 isn't a better choice? They jump in, and eat 30%+ for their trouble.He cant kill you with the sand traps when in fullscreen. And you can just walk forward and move in that sweet mid range spot where Noob can compete against Geras. Noob also deals great dmg off 113. I never mentioned using b1, 1+3 string unless its a punish and unless opponent pushes buttons in -f etc which is pretty much what i see with every Geras player doing these days. They use f212 on block and then they d1 almost all the time lol. Shit is fun as hell to watch.
For Gera's f212, Noob has f2.
Also i forgot to mention the range on Noob's regular throws. That shit is ridiculous, he practically sucks the opponent in and not to mention the fact he has 2 KB's from throws only! Thats 62% dmg!
P.S: I m not saying that Noob wins against Geras, but lets be real right here. Character has some issues yes, but not the ones i see some posting in this thread. He was supposed to be a zoning character yes, but guess what. If they buff his zoning, they will nerf his other tools.
Except from the b3 and clone KB requirements, the only changes i would give Noob, is to make his up knee special move a mid hitting attack, a slighly faster startup and better recovery in his clone tackle move and slightly reduce the dmg his tp does as a combo ender cause that shit is ridiculous af.
With these changes implemented he could compete against everyone imo.
The dive kick would serve a similar function to Kabal's aerial downward buzz saw so I assume Noob's mid range as well as zoning game would be a lot better if the move were equipped. I am not sure about the other moves, but I recall someone mentioning that the sickle grab would give Noob access to even more damage.
Yes, they should be. Unless you are strictly playing the game at a casual level with you friends, you will encounter characters like Erron Black and Geras much more frequently than characters like D'Vorah and Kotal Kahn while playing offline or online. The notion that tier lists only matter at the highest level of play is also inaccurate. Simply playing ranked online exposes you to the better characters in the game. Characters are therefore judged and compared to the top tier characters of the game, not the low tier characters that are rarely used.
I don't think that's what he meant. I think he's saying that NRS shouldn't aim to balance all characters around their level.
Thats a good answer I WAS IN WORK fuckin clown
Exactly my point, thank you. Of course I see how these characters are the ones that players have to compete with, but that doesn’t mean they are what a balanced character should look like.
Wait.. He has 2 KBs on throws? Both sides can KB in one match?
I think Noob's good, but there are remnants of another Noob that never came to be all over his design.
Very good post. You perfectly described how I feel about Noob.
If you disagree let me know what you think is holding him back and I’ll drop you 5 other characters that have the same issue but worse than noob. Not every character needs a 50/50 to be considered good this isn’t mkx. We on the same page as far as the KB requirements go those don’t seem to make sense but I dont think that alone keeps him from being A tier. We will still have both throw KB’s and the counter hit B1 KB. Oh and don’t forget D2 if you hit someone with that it’s 50 percent life gone. Plus full screen FB that you can use on reaction to literally anything.
Nerfing Sub Zero (and a handful of other top tier characters) to Noob's level takes less work than buffing all the other characters to Sub Zero's level. I think you already know which route NRS will take.
The trade offs are hardly worth anything. I think I speak for most Noob players when I say I had rather have access to a safe b+1,1+3 with a hurt box and slightly less damage. Almost all characters with safe 9 to 11 frame mid strings are top tier.
