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I jumped back on Noob for some shlits and giggles, but noticed I'm 16/21 for finishers. Has new stuff been added lately? I'm a single player that dabbles in the occasional group boss towers, so anything KL related I have no clue about. Also Noob is still #1 in my book.......except the Shinnok cheerleader part.
 
I jumped back on Noob for some shlits and giggles, but noticed I'm 16/21 for finishers. Has new stuff been added lately? I'm a single player that dabbles in the occasional group boss towers, so anything KL related I have no clue about. Also Noob is still #1 in my book.......except the Shinnok cheerleader part.
A few days ago there was a tower with a New Brutality for him. It involves his Shadow Up Kick. You gotta be below 30% health and finish the match with DB4 as the opponent is jumping. This also works with AMP BF3 but they dont have to jump with that one.

Also the Halloween tower had one for his Ghost Ball. I think you gotta have over 50% health and finish the match with it.
 
Guys, help please. I'm getting d2'd into oblivion, specially online. I can expect some d2's, but whenever I stagger someone with F2, s1 or if they're in knockdown I still get d2'd...
 

NooBooN

I Am Thee Noob Saibot
Guys, help please. I'm getting d2'd into oblivion, specially online. I can expect some d2's, but whenever I stagger someone with F2, s1 or if they're in knockdown I still get d2'd...
Start D4/D3ing more to make them respect it or you can read the d2 and just raw duck it. B1 string also can keep most opponent from mashing buttons
 

Wam-Zlay

Noob / Reptile / Grodd / Sub Zero
Guys, help please. I'm getting d2'd into oblivion, specially online. I can expect some d2's, but whenever I stagger someone with F2, s1 or if they're in knockdown I still get d2'd...
You've to be really careful whatever you do, because you don't have really good mids at all. . Play passively and stay at certain distance to your opponent. use b3 xx bf3 amp, b1 xxbf3 amp and b2 to push them away from you. F221 must not be overused, because it's a high.

Another option would be to not play noob at all :D
 

fr stack

Noob's saibot or noob saibot's?
You've to be really careful whatever you do, because you don't have really good mids at all. . Play passively and stay at certain distance to your opponent. use b3 xx bf3 amp, b1 xxbf3 amp and b2 to push them away from you. F221 must not be overused, because it's a high.

Another option would be to not play noob at all :D
You take that back this instant!
 

Mandolore1123

Man of Science Who Wields the Living Lightning
It might work off 212 f221 now too but i havent checked it. either way 212 f221 tele amp into b1 1+3 FB will work 8)
Speaking of AMP tele, I’ve seen around that there isn’t much reason to even pick DS Noob now since SD was buffed, is that true? Are there certain MUs that DS does better? Or is it a choose whatever you want thing?
 

fr stack

Noob's saibot or noob saibot's?
Speaking of AMP tele, I’ve seen around that there isn’t much reason to even pick DS Noob now since SD was buffed, is that true? Are there certain MUs that DS does better? Or is it a choose whatever you want thing?
Ive actually been using dark sabbath for about the last week the damage and mobility he has beats seeing double imo. if i want to shithouse them using poke into slide stuff i have to be in a bad mood or i dont do it properly lol ill switch to sd if i feel the other player has me beat
 

Zer0_h0ur

XBL tag: South of Zero
Speaking of AMP tele, I’ve seen around that there isn’t much reason to even pick DS Noob now since SD was buffed, is that true? Are there certain MUs that DS does better? Or is it a choose whatever you want thing?
Dark sabbath does well against characters with punishable strings and enders.
Scorpion, sub, kung lao, liu kang etc

I also have come around to see the logic of using pitch black against Kotal over DS or SD
 

Zer0_h0ur

XBL tag: South of Zero

This guy is a chode for stealing Rooflemonger's stuff but he makes some valid points.
Specifically how Noob thrives on opponent's mistakes for offense. I always struggle against very patient, solid defensive players.

He def needs a slight tweak based on the meta at this point imo.
113 should be jailable off d1/d3, periodddd. So incredibly whack that he can't jail his best offensive string.
I think you either make b1(1+3) completely safe or make b2 an overhead. A non-cancellable overhead would not be OP bc you couldn't combo from it, and would open up his offense a little more from people turtling in and playing poke-throw up close all the time.
What do you guys think?
 

Wam-Zlay

Noob / Reptile / Grodd / Sub Zero

This guy is a chode for stealing Rooflemonger's stuff but he makes some valid points.
Specifically how Noob thrives on opponent's mistakes for offense. I always struggle against very patient, solid defensive players.

He def needs a slight tweak based on the meta at this point imo.
113 should be jailable off d1/d3, periodddd. So incredibly whack that he can't jail his best offensive string.
I think you either make b1(1+3) completely safe or make b2 an overhead. A non-cancellable overhead would not be OP bc you couldn't combo from it, and would open up his offense a little more from people turtling in and playing poke-throw up close all the time.
What do you guys think?
Well I still think he doesn't need anything at all. He is solid and should stay solid. I don't want to play noob mirrors all day long.
 

This guy is a chode for stealing Rooflemonger's stuff but he makes some valid points.
Specifically how Noob thrives on opponent's mistakes for offense. I always struggle against very patient, solid defensive players.

He def needs a slight tweak based on the meta at this point imo.
113 should be jailable off d1/d3, periodddd. So incredibly whack that he can't jail his best offensive string.
I think you either make b1(1+3) completely safe or make b2 an overhead. A non-cancellable overhead would not be OP bc you couldn't combo from it, and would open up his offense a little more from people turtling in and playing poke-throw up close all the time.
What do you guys think?
He's fine as he is IMO. Except for the part that the jailing window for d1/d3 needs to be looked at for online. And why make b2 an OH when it's a safe guaranteed mid? It's the only mid I use if someone tries to jump or press buttons after doing ghostball (+5)
 

fr stack

Noob's saibot or noob saibot's?
Dark sabbath does well against characters with punishable strings and enders.
Scorpion, sub, kung lao, liu kang etc

I also have come around to see the logic of using pitch black against Kotal over DS or SD
Could you elaborate i threw that variation in the garbage 2 days after it released 8)
 

Zer0_h0ur

XBL tag: South of Zero
Could you elaborate i threw that variation in the garbage 2 days after it released 8)
kotal outspaces noob with his strings, you will get most your dmg off Kotal with F221 string, and variation 3 maximizes damage off F221 string. That's the line of thought.
 

Zer0_h0ur

XBL tag: South of Zero
Well I still think he doesn't need anything at all. He is solid and should stay solid. I don't want to play noob mirrors all day long.
He's fine as he is IMO. Except for the part that the jailing window for d1/d3 needs to be looked at for online. And why make b2 an OH when it's a safe guaranteed mid? It's the only mid I use if someone tries to jump or press buttons after doing ghostball (+5)
You guys seriously don't even see an issue with being unable to jail 113 in a game where NW, Cassie, and other 111 characters can auto shimmy you to death off jailed highs? Thats literally what the game revolves around and Noob can't use his fastest highest dmg string in it.
 
You guys seriously don't even see an issue with being unable to jail 113 in a game where NW, Cassie, and other 111 characters can auto shimmy you to death off jailed highs? Thats literally what the game revolves around and Noob can't use his fastest highest dmg string in it.
Uhmm, I addressed the 113 jailing issue :p But that happens frequently online. I practiced a bit for offline and I'm getting more consistent at it. It's a tight window, still...

I have more success with d3 jailing with 11. D1, on the other hand...
 

Wam-Zlay

Noob / Reptile / Grodd / Sub Zero
You guys seriously don't even see an issue with being unable to jail 113 in a game where NW, Cassie, and other 111 characters can auto shimmy you to death off jailed highs? Thats literally what the game revolves around and Noob can't use his fastest highest dmg string in it.
It doesn't matter if other characters can do something he can't. I just don't want him to be the next tierwhore character. Also it's not fun to play the game if you have a broken character
 

Rasssta48

" I would test your skill"
Why we ever need 113 to jail out of pokes? When Noobs shimmy string is 212 and it jails every time, problem solved:)
And i think its need to know that 2 alone has a really fast block recovery so you can do 2-throw and throw comes lightning fast despite -7 on block.
 
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Why we ever need 113 to jail out of pokes? When Noobs shimmy string is 212 and it jails every time, problem solved:)
And i think its need to know that 2 alone has a really fast block recovery so you can do 2-throw and throw comes lightning fast despite -7 on block.
I think I'm mistiming it most of the time online. I do sets with a friend online and whenever I do a d3 on hit I try to jail with 212... and later get D2'd lmao. He doesn't give af.
 

Zer0_h0ur

XBL tag: South of Zero
Why we ever need 113 to jail out of pokes? When Noobs shimmy string is 212 and it jails every time, problem solved:)
And i think its need to know that 2 alone has a really fast block recovery so you can do 2-throw and throw comes lightning fast despite -7 on block.
Because 113 is his fastest string? BC characters like baraka and NW can jail their fastest string from their god-like d3? Think about it on paper it makes no sense for him to jail F2 and S2 and not S1 when the frame adv is there.


The more and more I go around with other people with 1000s games noob xp, I'm more on the B2 to overhead is what he should get. Wouldn't change any of the top 5 and would make him more viable against his tougher MU's.
I've talked to a couple of the very few high level Noob pros and they agree B2 to OH and the 113 jail would be a legit non-OP buff.
 
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Because 113 is his fastest string? BC characters like baraka and NW can jail their fastest string from their god-like d3? Think about it on paper it makes no sense for him to jail F2 and S2 and not S1 when the frame adv is there.


The more and more I go around with other people with 1000s games noob xp, I'm more on the B2 to overhead is what he should get. Wouldn't change any of the top 5 and would make him more viable against his tougher MU's.
I've talked to a couple of the very few high level Noob pros and they agree B2 to OH and the 113 jail would be a legit non-OP buff.
I agree with 113 jailing with d1, but... B2 being an OH? B2 is my only respectable mid when people try to jump out when I'm plus.