Back 2 is not cancellable into anything so yeah it's good for 8 percent and making space but it's i assumed it was a given we're talking mids you can actually do something off of. Likewise for F4. Both good situationally they don't make or break him and I hardly saw either Nicky or Honeybee use those normals at ECT. Prob for good reason. F4 is -8 btw, and can be punished in some instances.
F4 is -7, you are not getting punished except for 6 frame d1s
And on block you're all up in the opponent's grill after both moves.
Safe advancing lows and mids are not situational. They should be used as much as d3/d4 as they condition your opponent to not mash d1 and d2 from range opening up more chances for f2s in neutral while being safe and pushing them towards the corner on hit. This is noob saibots entire gameplan
I actually do play ds and sdJust use Seeing Double
. It sad anywaysEhh, i think it's you downplaying how easy it is to defend Noob Saibot depending on what he does. Every blocked B2 and F4 against a 9f mid character or some similar stagger character and you've essentially lost your space bubble and going to give up decent to big damage.
Oh my bad. I meant to reply to the post asking about Dark Sabbath.
Some truth. Yeah he's kinda like Kung Lao, especially Dark Sabbath, in that he's all about D3 throw life. Problem is he doesn't have that 10F mid to cancel off of outta D3. It's slide, or F2, or if you're close the 212 auto shimmy. S1 won't jail, and B1 is too stubby. His tools don't all flow well together in that sense. Kung Lao requires you to play very uncreative and he's got more options off his poke than Noob.Noob is a good character not great, good . B2 is good if they jump after every wakeup which good players dont do
f4 is good if for some reason their d+block is broken otherwise nah
The problem people have is if you want to be a high level saibot you need to disregard any creativity and stick to d4 d3 and b2 maybe cancel pokes into his unsafe fireball. It just kills the fun.. so ima keep being a creative yet salty saibot getting d2'd out of everything
I think you do get to be relatively creative with Seeing Double, bc it's all about spacing and neutral. Agree 100% regarding dark sabbath thoNoob is a good character not great, good . B2 is good if they jump after every wakeup which good players dont do
f4 is good if for some reason their d+block is broken otherwise nah
The problem people have is if you want to be a high level saibot you need to disregard any creativity and stick to d4 d3 and b2 maybe cancel pokes into his unsafe fireball. It just kills the fun.. so ima keep being a creative yet salty saibot getting d2'd out of everything
If upknee connected on grounded opponents id be happy tbh (midscreen)
Upknee should have an ex Version which jails into f2 midscreen. Gimme buffs
Yeah I messed with Dark Sabbath a bunch yesterday again after this thread. Sickle port is def really bunk against good players. It's okay for switching sides before you get cornered I guess.
Just use a lot of short hops and jumps to bait movement they know you want to sickle port but now they know u know the hesitation allows a lot of free jump kicks. Jump distance short hop into b3 KB is gold online lol
Nice. As a player right now I'm trying to do more short hops in my game, I know the opportunities are there i just don't do 'em. That sounds gold
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Ooh i havent thought of that although my fatal blows are janky cause ive block mapped to r1 ill have to try that !!
Maybe we can do the same with the short hop, followed by b3+FB? Never thought of using the short hops like that.
