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My current Top 10 in Mortal Kombat XL

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Wigy

Wigy

There it is...
neveradestroyer said:
Sub Zero is not a top 10 Character. Too many losing matchups and ton of negative strings only make him an overhyped character. There, I said it. Until proven otherwise A.K.A in tournies, He's not a top 10 contender anymore.
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What bad matchups cant he cover
 
Tweedy

Tweedy

Noob
Cryo is a pretty balanced grappler. Yeah he ticks off a lot of things, but if he's wrong he gets punished big. His command grab is also a high. That's not bad but it's not amazing on MKX, it allows for opportunities to fuzzy it by letting go of block quickly and blocking again.

I think it was so overrated when the patch hit, because it's actually pretty good now, when it was crap and never seen competitively in the previous version. This leap made a lot of people think that it was insanely op or whatever. imo
 
YoloRoll1stHit

YoloRoll1stHit

Publicly Educated
Tweedy said:
Cryo is a pretty balanced grappler. Yeah he ticks off a lot of things, but if he's wrong he gets punished big. His command grab is also a high. That's not bad but it's not amazing on MKX, it allows for opportunities to fuzzy it by letting go of block quickly and blocking again.

I think it was so overrated when the patch hit, because it's actually pretty good now, when it was crap and never seen competitively in the previous version. This leap made a lot of people think that it was insanely op or whatever. imo
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he's a variation that's based entirely on mixups and that's really dumb. I don't put him on top tier but I really hate his design. yea you can punish him for big damage but his mixups are 33/33/33, you have only 33% chance to punish him for big damage, and you have 66% chance to eat decent/big damage, depending on the launcher and how many bars he wants to spend. I don't think bad design characters that happen to be mid tier (because of several bad matchups) should be called "balanced". If you play Injustice, Killer Frost is pretty similar to him (imo) and everybody hates Killer Frost
 
Revenant Zero

Revenant Zero

Death Comes
Tweedy said:
Idk Unbreakable vs Possessed is probably 5-5 imo.

He does better than GM for sure.
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When Sub-Zero does 5-5, it almost always not in his favor.
Possessed Vs. GM is like Balanced Vs. GM. Unfavorable to Sub.

I labbed that Balanced Vs. GM with lil Tweedy.
 
Eddy Wang

Eddy Wang

Skarlet scientist
Rever tier list might look like personal experience, but i can't help to feel kinda the same way, his picks are on point with a few things, each one of these characters dominates in one aspect of the game by itself.

Mileena can low profile mids, insane damage, very good projectile and tracking specials.

Scorpion has nearly an answer to everything, he only lacks but a good wakeup, but his neutral is just as dumb either in Ninjutsu or Hellfire, i'm sorry to scorp players, but flame aura is broke as fuck, his teleport is a very good tool as well.

Tanya is one of these characters who is buffed by the universal meta changes, besides i personally enjoy Dragon Naginata since it forces characters to chase her, which makes all matches stamina aggressive working on her favor due her mobility, great walkspeed, pogo threat etc etc, DN also doesn't care about random fullscreen strings, random d1s in between pressure, if low profiles or not, random NJPs or slides, has great ranges, even with the damage nerf she dominates in midscreen as well and she has a 50-50 with B32.

I know Sektor is just as good and he is on many ppl tiers list, same as dragon fire LK or flamefist, but the way i see this tier list, all character revert listed has a total domination of certain aspects of the game which seems to be crucial.
 
Tweedy

Tweedy

Noob
Dankster Morgan said:
Klone is pretty useless midscreen and Kenshi gets a safe(plus) wake up in the corner, better punish on low demon if he has aura up. I don't know about it fully "covering" it you know?
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Imo the match isn't that horrible with Unbreakable, whether it's 4-6 or 5-5. It doesn't warrant picking up a completely new character for Kenshi.
 
Second Saint

Second Saint

A man with too many names.
Revenant Zero said:
When Sub-Zero does 5-5, it almost always not in his favor.
Possessed Vs. GM is like Balanced Vs. GM. Unfavorable to Sub.

I labbed that Balanced Vs. GM with lil Tweedy.
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Ok, can you explain to me how you've come to the conclusion that Sub-Zero has 5-5 match ups that aren't in his favor? That's a pretty contradictory statement, given how the entire notion of a 5-5 is that it's not in anyone's favor.

I'm not disputing that he has bad matchups, just the notion he somehow does poorly in 5-5's. If he does, then they aren't 5-5's by definition.
 
Dankster Morgan

Dankster Morgan

It is better this way
Tweedy said:
Imo the match isn't that horrible with Unbreakable, whether it's 4-6 or 5-5. It doesn't warrant picking up a completely new character for Kenshi.
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I thought by "cover it" you meant make it even. And yeah SZ players are used to having like 6 3-7 matchups so whatever Kenshi does to Sub isn't really shit compared to what other characters in previous versions of MKX had done.
 
RevetLeafing

RevetLeafing

Tanya, Tanqui, and Kaprisun Specialist
GLoRToR said:
Why is Shinnok better than Jason or Smoke? And why is Mileena in the A-tier?

Mileena - Smoke - Jason are top 3 in no particular order for me. These three still have a bit of dirt that needs looking at in the upcoming patches in my opinion.
Then I think Raiden and Shinnok at balanced but godly tier, with Ermac and Grandmaster as a close follow.
I wouldn't put Tanya in top 10, maybe within the 15.

I also think that Cassie and D'Vorah have a spot in top 10 still.
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No, Tanya definitely deserves a top 10 spot, especially in this version of the game.

Dvorah? No, Cassie is debatable.
 
ragnar0kz28

ragnar0kz28

Noob
RevetLeafing said:
Interesting, I along with everyone else was sure that Kitana would be top 10 after the October 4th Patch, but now that game has adjusted, it's very easy to say that she is not top 10, now this doesn't mean she isn't good, just look at Tremor, Reptile, Liu, etc. I think Sektor tagging along with Smoke is very debatable because I just don't see the big fuss over Sektor. Tbh it all started when Sonic put him in his top 5.
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Kitana is way better overal than Scorpion, she barelly has bad matchups, and they are manageable, besides HQT, that its her only 7/3 MU, Sektor is one of those characters that plays mkx the best in this patch, thats why. Reptile will be THAT character that every game has, the overated one. Im glad people are starting to realize how good Displacer is.
 
RevetLeafing

RevetLeafing

Tanya, Tanqui, and Kaprisun Specialist
ragnar0kz28 said:
Kitana is way better overal than Scorpion, she barelly has bad matchups, and they are manageable, besides HQT, that its her only 7/3 MU, Sektor is one of those characters that plays mkx the best in this patch, thats why. Reptile will be THAT character that every game has, the overated one. Im glad people are starting to realize how good Displacer is.
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Kitana is good, like I said, she's not a bad character at all, but I just don't see her in a placement of any top 10 list, she's just not there yet, and let's not go over board, Kitana is not better than scorpion.
 
Revenant Zero

Revenant Zero

Death Comes
Second Saint said:
Ok, can you explain to me how you've come to the conclusion that Sub-Zero has 5-5 match ups that aren't in his favor? That's a pretty contradictory statement, given how the entire notion of a 5-5 is that it's not in anyone's favor.

I'm not disputing that he has bad matchups, just the notion he somehow does poorly in 5-5's. If he does, then they aren't 5-5's by definition.
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When you get an A-, is that the same as an A? I mean they are both As, right? No. Just because you didn't do that one thing like a blackboard posting or a homework assignment on time. The small menial things add up in the overall academic level. My summation stems from that and yes I am a stickler with grades.

Example, I believe Reptile Vs. Sub is an even 5-5 match up but doing something as trivial as a delayed punish would get me into a 36% life deficit.

Certain situations are just bound to happen and in even match ups, I feel like most of those match ups Sub-Zero must play a certain way or else it would becone confodununfly or slightly unfavorable. This goes for either character in that match up, the even match up is worse IMO than an unfavorable or favorable match up. Just because you don't know what to expect what your opponent might do because the tools you have and your opponent have are either the same or you have something they do not and vice versa.
 
Yer_Da

Yer_Da

I don't sell Avon.
Hold on, Revet, you said Tanya loses only two matchups in this game and you place her as being number six to ten in this game?

So, in your opinion, are you suggesting that there's five to nine characters that also have two losing matchups or even less?
 
ismael4790

ismael4790

Stay focused or get Caged
Revenant Zero said:
When Sub-Zero does 5-5, it almost always not in his favor.
Possessed Vs. GM is like Balanced Vs. GM. Unfavorable to Sub.

I labbed that Balanced Vs. GM with lil Tweedy.
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Balanced does not have advantage vs Gm Sub anymore. It was close to 6-4 prepatch. Now it's 5-5.

Possessed is the best choice vs Gm.
 
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