EdenianWarrior
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5% damage.....what the actual fuck?
5% damage.....what the actual fuck?
Why not? B12 would still nab you 30%.
Idk...it seems very excessive.
Personally, I'd have to disagree. It's true everyone has questionable tools in this game. Though part of the reason for that is because everyone more or less points the finger at one another. "Don't take our tools away, take ____'s" which is why ultimately nothing gets fixed. Or as Brady once put it, people don't fully explore the character, assume he/she is bad, then make thread after thread wanting buffs & posting it all over the place. Not you mind you, but others. Which at some point results in 1 or more of those characters receiving a laundry list of adjustments.
Her damage now is excessive imo. She doesn't really need to damage the way Scorpion does(I draw the comparison because Ninjutsu and Piercing have comparable damage). Grandmaster has low damage mid screen because he would be really messed up if he hit like a truck mid screen too.
Her damage seems fine to me. I'd be 100% fine if that 5% off was given to Pyromancer.
Yeah I'd be okay with that haha
She hits hard and Ravenous hits harder. Ravenous IS currently braindead because there is no risk or comitment to a single thing she throws out. Any unsafe string, just cancel into high pounce and make it only -3. You catch someone with high pounce, hit confirm into 16% and advantage. Restand them, like in the video below, and they need to either armor or challenge it with a 6 or 7f move respectively or else eat more pressure, or a high pounce check, AGAIN. Mind you, the second combo below isn't even optimal for Ravenous. And like what I was saying before, buff the restand more? Buff the bite TO a restand so its basically EXACTLY like Piercing? Keep the damage shown as is, even as both arent even full combos?
I got the same problem
Wtf piercing is 10x safer you maniac or wait you still forget your mid is 11 frames with good range, hard to whiff punish without reading it, and -1 or 2 on block so throwing it out isn't as much of an issue as ravenous trying to throw out f2 or something.
Cuz High Pounce itself isn't a viable ranged true mid SPECIAL that is safe as well as 12f right? And b22 being 13f, safe, and also mids as well aren't cutting it too
Trying to fix it cuz I have the same problem viewing. If anything, my channel, same name as here, most recent uploads
Bruh b1 sheninagans is way worse than pounce. Do I have to tell you how dumb b1 actually is?
Fixed the vids in the post above
Not seeing what the problem is....
The changes salt face proposed are no where near killing mileena in the way I feel you think. They're just toning her down and in no way make her less viable they're just making her less impractical to fight. And the buffs he proposed to ravenous are completely reasonable I don't see how her pounce is supposed to be anywhere near as threatening as anything b12 can do currently or even after a patch like this would be implemented d1 pounce into a mb roll or d1 pounce mixup is nothing compared to b12 that is impractical to whiff punish that leads to staggers throws or mb roll mixups or whiff punishes that lead to 30-35%
Not once did I say that she shouldn't be nerfed or that the nerfs were impractical. What I've been saying is why take away tools that make a character "oh so good", just to slap it on to the SAME character, different variation. If you don't main the character or lab her, naturally you will think that Ravenous is ok at best and buffs won't do any harm. My thing is, for someone that does lab her out, Ravenous is very close behind Piercing as is, so it still isn't helping the whole "balancing" aspect because she will still have tools that are deemed "broke".
The mixups and 50/50s off of Piercing are JUST as present and available in Ravenous with the exception of b21, thats it. The mindgames are still the same, the meta is very much similar, and the damage is actually in Ravenous' favor. I'm not saying she'll be less viable, I'll still pick the variation that does better regardless of which one it is. I'm just trying to point out that buffing an already buffed variation is essentially the same as buffing Piercing, and you will see it in time should it happen
Ravenous doesn't have the same tools as piercing so its not reinstalling the same problem piercings tools are obviously meant to be defensive and ravenous offensive its logically taking what is too much from piercing (too much offensive options) and giving it to the variation that needs it more (ravenous) and while I don't think ravenous is trash I definitely don't think its scary at all and I've played against saltfaces ravenous and while I lost lol I still don't see how these buffs would cause the problem you say it would
Well to give an example from personal experience, I would do a string and special cancel into black dragon ball if I anticipated a counter poke. But because that counter attack turned out to be ex roll, I lose the trade bc I tried to cancel the ball and continue comboing instead of letting it fly. In this case yes, the armor breaking thing is the more reasonable and valid argument. But to me, visually it shouldn't be 3 hits to begin with. Gunslinger stance into up shots is 2 shots fired (makes sense), Lackey EX roll rolls twice (makes sense), mileena EX Telekick performs 3 seperate kicks (makes sense), mileena flipping over 1 time then rolling and it counting it as a 3 hitting move (doesn't make sense). But If you're gonna keep it 3 hitting (to save the armor breaking.....bc f12 isn't enough) then at least get rid of the 2nd OH and make it a mid.