Overall, Outtake is arguably better. On the other hand, Showstopper seems better in certain match ups in which EX forceballs jail.
Yes I saw many Cage players succeed with Outtake, but in the lastest patch they nerfed his Rising Star that costs him 2 bars on block so I wonder does it make Outtake weaker than Showstopper by any chance? Especially I just watched K&M's variation tier list 2 days ago and it seems like they place Showstopper above Outtake
Based on tournament results, Johnny Cage is one of a handful of characters who has two viable variations. So trying to figure out which of the two variations is the superior one overall is futile in my opinion, especially when match ups determine which you pick. I believe that gameplay style preference also plays a major role. If you are good at controlling space and playing footsies, Outtake is the way to go. If you are good at playing offensive and making comebacks, Showstopper is the way to go. So I guess to reiterate, Johnny Cage players choose Outtake or Showstopper depending on the match up and gameplay style preference because both are viable variations as tournament results indicate.
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I honestly don’t think the changes really effect outtake all that much honestly as 124 and 34u3 still give him the pushback and spacing to play his footsies and he wasn’t really able to use his forceballs as plus frames anyways.
I honestly think it was a knee jerk nerf too many people complaining just off the strength of so many pros using him even if they weren’t encountering him themselves. I’m surprised nothing really happened to jacqui and Liu though.
Definitely agree with this. Im not tryna downplay johnny cause he was definitely top tier. But johnny can’t really enforce his footsies with how slow his normals are. I feel like plus 3 wouldve been a more fair nerf. But they might as well have made it 0 on block at this point. We got mkx’ed lol
wtf is that. Why didnt they do a mime related one
It's just annoying how there's basically no compensation here. Shock Jock really needs something now for it to be even remotely relevant. Before this, I'd be willing to admit that base Johnny alone could carry it (which makes sense, since you were basically were playing base Johnny for 90% of the match), but now they're neutered what made base Johnny so good.
Lol nrs and balance. On one hand his 124 and 34u3 still have the pushback that excels his footsies. But other than that good luck enforcing those normals somehow. A flawless block gap would’ve been better imo than this. Mindgames with his 121 then. But what do I know
Can he juggle off that armor break in the corner?
At least they listened to me
No, the recovery is way too long. Jax gets better recovery when he armor breaks, why can't Johnny?
Looks like the gravity says no, but I'm just going by the video he posted. I'm at work, else I'd check myself.