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MK11 Johnny Cage General Discussion

Yo so it’s been a minute. How do you think we can adequately and fairly adjust Johnny? I feel like he’s too honest all things considered and there weren’t any adjustments in his favor with his nerfs
 

mrapchem

Noob
In addition to Rodney Quillz's adjustment, I would add that his whiffing issues need to be fixed, including his S2 whiffing on some characters while low-blocking. Also, he needs a much better armor break as it's one of, if not the worst in the game. And as a QOL change, can we get some utility to some of his string enders, like the U4 in his F344 and 244 strings? That's literally it and then NRS can leave Cage alone for the rest of the game.
 
If they would just fix the whiffing on his forceballs id be a happy camper. But it’s pretty pointless wishing for adjustments. NRS has the weirdest balancing I’ve ever seen. Side question, how do y’all handle the Shang MU as Johnny ?
 
I just love how people say Cage never needed any nerfs. But even after his nerfs he's still fucking super good and can literally just do whatever he wants with no meter all game.
 
I'm discussing Cage. In a forum titled... Johnny Cage General Discussion. Why is every TYM user's BIG GOTTEM TACTIC: "iS tHiS tHe ToPic oF tHe oF tHe FoRuM??". TYM flowchart ass... smh

Sidenote, if Cage's whiffing "issues" were fixed he'd easily be the best character in the game and it wouldn't even be close.
 

BKV2

Noob
I'm discussing Cage. In a forum titled... Johnny Cage General Discussion. Why is every TYM user's BIG GOTTEM TACTIC: "iS tHiS tHe ToPic oF tHe oF tHe FoRuM??". TYM flowchart ass... smh

Sidenote, if Cage's whiffing "issues" were fixed he'd easily be the best character in the game and it wouldn't even be close.
Who do you main
 
I'm discussing Cage. In a forum titled... Johnny Cage General Discussion. Why is every TYM user's BIG GOTTEM TACTIC: "iS tHiS tHe ToPic oF tHe oF tHe FoRuM??". TYM flowchart ass... smh

Sidenote, if Cage's whiffing "issues" were fixed he'd easily be the best character in the game and it wouldn't even be close.
Because the forums been dead for weeks and you come in here with obvious salt.

its obvious you just got bopped lol.

“PUT EM IN A BODY BAG JOHNNY!”

I hope it was jock that did it so we can roast you even more.
 
I'm discussing Cage. In a forum titled... Johnny Cage General Discussion. Why is every TYM user's BIG GOTTEM TACTIC: "iS tHiS tHe ToPic oF tHe oF tHe FoRuM??". TYM flowchart ass... smh

Sidenote, if Cage's whiffing "issues" were fixed he'd easily be the best character in the game and it wouldn't even be close.
Well there's the fact that he has no good Armour break hurts him and as a character, buffs for others and his whole being really dependent on making foes stand to make up for his lack of OH's and quick mids others up top have. The whiffing issues are a mess since shit that should land doesn't and this fucks many MU's up because if they know of his issues many female and Raiden/Kabal and Erron? can outright render Showstopper null.
 

Wigy

There it is...
Well there's the fact that he has no good Armour break hurts him and as a character, buffs for others and his whole being really dependent on making foes stand to make up for his lack of OH's and quick mids others up top have. The whiffing issues are a mess since shit that should land doesn't and this fucks many MU's up because if they know of his issues many female and Raiden/Kabal and Erron? can outright render Showstopper null.
Dont bother, hes just been bopped and is using this forum as his diary.
 
Nearly every character can get counterpicked. Advocating for an insane level of buffs based off of just counterpicks isn't good game design. That's like saying... Well, Kano gets beat by zoners clean so we need to give him a teleport. Everyone JC downplayer always whines about whiffs but absolutely cannot and refuses to acknowledge how good he is when he's playing against a character he doesn't whiff on. Also, you don't need a great armor breaker when you already had and have had an insane unbreakable damage FB combo/mixup. Something reinforced by Joker, who also doesn't have the best armor breaker ever but yknow... they both don't need it when you have a cancellable FB that does nuts damage.
Again. If Cage didn't whiff against certain members of the cast he'd be top 1 or at the LEAST top 2.
 
Nearly every character can get counterpicked. Advocating for an insane level of buffs based off of just counterpicks isn't good game design. That's like saying... Well, Kano gets beat by zoners clean so we need to give him a teleport. Everyone JC downplayer always whines about whiffs but absolutely cannot and refuses to acknowledge how good he is when he's playing against a character he doesn't whiff on. Also, you don't need a great armor breaker when you already had and have had an insane unbreakable damage FB combo/mixup. Something reinforced by Joker, who also doesn't have the best armor breaker ever but yknow... they both don't need it when you have a cancellable FB that does nuts damage.
Again. If Cage didn't whiff against certain members of the cast he'd be top 1 or at the LEAST top 2.
You are in here justifying dev glitches because a Johnny Cage user outplayed your(probable) Ungabunga Kano and you are saying we are the ones whining? Lmaooo
 
Dev glitches lol. That's why they've not been fixed in how many patches now. When other unintentional whiffing buttons have been? lmfao free
 
Notice how I bring up Cage players refusing to admit how strong he is against characters he doesn't whiff against and we skip right over that. The Johnny Cage downplayer flowchart
 
Notice how I bring up Cage players refusing to admit how strong he is against characters he doesn't whiff against and we skip right over that. The Johnny Cage downplayer flowchart
Notice how we all keep bringing up that you have obviously been bopped and are in your feefees.

dude whiffs over half the CAST.

You resurrected a months old forum thread to make hilariously bad complaints and comparisons because you got OUTPLAYED get over it dude and get better it’s obvious that what you are saying is coming from a place of salt it’s not some new “hot take” that people just aren’t admitting to.

If you can’t compete against Johnny as Kano that says a lot more about you than it does us.

Anyways @Wigy is right no need to even indulge in this anymore, the fact that you implied all of his whiffing is intentional tells me all I need to know.
 
If it's not intentional explain why it's not been fixed in how many patches now? When other whiffing has? You think NRS just has it out for poor Johnny Cage. Or, if you could stop downplaying for one literal minute and think... Maybe, just maybe. They agree with me.
Anyways, it's been fun. I actually came to this thread for a legitimate discussion but as soon as anyone mentions absolutely anything critical about JC (the fact that he has insane options with 0 meter, insane safe options is a legitimate critique to be discussed...) its like a fuckin' nervous tick that y'all go straight into immediate downplay mode and refuse to have a honest conversation about how strong JC really is (Top 5, still easily AF).
Enjoy the circlejerk. pce