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Darth Mao

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I think the better scenario for us would be d2 or f2 for Armor Breaker, but I would be happy if they fix women reaction vs Storm Cell and remove gaps after canceling strings on specials.
 

Zviko

Noob
What about Electric Fly? It would combo of off everything and it has a KB which never happens. It would be great if they also made Storm Cell like Kitana's tornado, so it's unbreakable. Then you do the Storm Cell, jump in combo and then it's a mix up. Whether you do normal combo or straight into Electric Fly for the KB. For D2KB and B2KB you can go straight into Fly as well. Makes sense right?
 

Black Chapters

Legend of Legaia Main
What about Electric Fly? It would combo of off everything and it has a KB which never happens. It would be great if they also made Storm Cell like Kitana's tornado, so it's unbreakable. Then you do the Storm Cell, jump in combo and then it's a mix up. Whether you do normal combo or straight into Electric Fly for the KB. For D2KB and B2KB you can go straight into Fly as well. Makes sense right?
It being Electric Fly would literally only work if you can't break Storm Cell.

But I already hate this addition anyway, Scorpion gets a free combo everytime, Sub-Zero gets one KB and after that just a hit. Its already unbalanced.

Furthermore nobody breaks at a point when Sub would have a spot to do that.

And Electric Fly's KB needs to be changed to either doing it after a 5 hit combo or in the air.
 

Zviko

Noob
It being Electric Fly would literally only work if you can't break Storm Cell.
You don't know that though because we haven't seen the changes yet. Breakaway itself may work differently and most of the moves that are anti-breakaway will probably get changes too. For Scorpion we know it works only after D2KB as it is currently and that would work with Raiden's Electric Fly too even if no changes were made. But I think they will change Storm Cell to be unbreakable anyway.
But I already hate this addition anyway, Scorpion gets a free combo everytime, Sub-Zero gets one KB and after that just a hit. Its already unbalanced.
Every time if they breakaway. But what if they don't? Then Scorpion lost a lot of potential damage and they kept their meter. Sounds pretty balanced to me. Also it's not like they have breakaway every single time you launch them.
And Electric Fly's KB needs to be changed to either doing it after a 5 hit combo or in the air.
Not if it becomes anti armor move.
 

Mandolore1123

Man of Science Who Wields the Living Lightning
true, what else would it be though? the moves theyve shown have a tendency to be ~20f, advancing mids and f2/f4 would fit right in.
It depends on how NRS would frame these armour breakers, whether they are universal moves or limited to certain tournament variations. Not to mention there’s usually some extra property of that move added on to incentivise usage on a read, so F2 being so integral to his regular combos might not be their choice. Or they might tweak it so who knows
 
It depends on how NRS would frame these armour breakers, whether they are universal moves or limited to certain tournament variations. Not to mention there’s usually some extra property of that move added on to incentivise usage on a read, so F2 being so integral to his regular combos might not be their choice. Or they might tweak it so who knows
nothing left to say but "we'll see"
 
true, what else would it be though? the moves theyve shown have a tendency to be ~20f, advancing mids and f2/f4 would fit right in.
I'd think F4 between those 2, after the f4 you can't get the extra 1,2,fly for optimal so if you do f4 instead you'd have to choose between your optimal vs anti armor
 

Marlow

Premium
Premium Supporter
in which case you get what, a regular knockdown?

while Scorpion gets a full free combo
I would think they would change the properties of the move when used as an armor breaker. They could give F4 a KB that triggers when used as an armor breaker. Or maybe F4 causes a re-stand, or pops the opponent back up for a combo, or grants enough advantage that you could cancel F4 into some kind of ender.
 

Marlow

Premium
Premium Supporter
B12 is going to be safe
B12 1+3 will be an actual throw ender of some kind (I didn't hear all the details)
Electric Fly KB requirement has been shortened
Also Storm Cell can't be broken out of until the third hit I think (so all those TW players can stop their complaining about Raiden now).

And apparently some other buffs as well (please god Truth and Light please please please please please)
 

ExpectFlames

Lord of embers
I'm assuming it's something like -6. Safe, but gives up his turn. Which really helps out TW variation. That change alone makes him undeniably mid tier, if not upper mid tier in my mind.
I've been playing him a bunch recently, if your only reacting to things baiting and whiff punishing he is REALLY ANNOYING to deal with. Everything works as intended raiden might be out of bottom 5