ppl just want to kill the character....
They nerfed 214 universally, taking away the extreme advantage he had after 214 xx FBC and fucking up stuff in his other variations as well.
He does have better MUs B.
The difference is scorpion has a damage buff (flame aura), a vortex (f4 is slow but still an overhead starter) with b3 as a low starter that can net him 40% before restanding you and forcing a guess. He most definitely did not need guaranteed blockstrings. If liu could activate his ff buff in dragons fire and if he had an overhead starter, id compare him to scorpion.
They nerfed Liu's F213 and and Dualist became worse even with the compensation they gave him , to further nerf it is just an awful idea. And please, DF doesn't have guaranteed loopable pressure, did you even watch Xarakamakas video? We all agree Liu still needs to get nerfed, but in the proper way, we all agree it would be fair that fk mb needs to be 0 on block, so that everyone can easily escape it. Isn't that enough?
you havent watched my video at all have you, even when you take away his fb cancels then he can still do the same thing as before since his fk mb will still be plus 2 lol. it wont change anything when those characters have no meter
sorry i put my response to that dude before even checking your response to him lol, my bad.
Oh yes yes leave it alone he can wall block infinite more than half of the cast, but lets leave it like that...
there is no such thing as an infinite with liu kang, please tell me this infinite. ppl need to think for themselves. write us all this infinite please
By this point, its just ignorance. They wont stop until the character is dead..
NEC Zyphox vs DJT tremor for example, if you dont have a 6 frame poke or a 8 frame armor your screwed, DJT has match knowleadge, why didnt ge get out of the wall? HE COULDNT, even commentators said it, hes cancels need to be less plus on block, thats all problem fixed. So people could armor out after the cancels like with tanya.
It takes 1 frame from duck to stand up... 7 frame trades if your lucky.
its a just frame for both characters, in most cases it will trade.
And you think its "OK" to take a big risk to a very small reward? if your unlucky you will get a full combo again into blocking? jejeje thanks god your not the one doing the balance patch, this must get normalized, I trust NRS with the patching, they have been doing good.
Doesn't have a vortex, never has.
I don't know wtf you're smoking, but I'd like some of it.
I said, including all Liu Kang mains that fk mb needs to be neutral on block, that's the only nerf Liu Kang needs,so everyone can escape his pressure easily, what else do you guys want? Jesus...and btw, Tremor has full combo punish aswell, its a risk for both sides.
d3 0 on block, all cancels have 2 more frames before being able to do something, they did it with tanya and shes still amazing.
Liu's d3 is a 12 frame poke, Tanya's rekkaken pressure is nothing like Liu's. You are asking for luxury nerfs.
Are you dumb? I doubt you even understood what i was getting at
Man i can see nrs nerfing his fk mb into 0 on blk and ruining his cancels . that would destroy the char and make him more or less useless right?
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised...but I will lmao if Summoner stays untouched.
He can combo of F4 but nobody gets hit with that shit B let's be serious.
No it's not enough. Nerf him into the ground for all I care.