Invincible Salads
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i don't know bout scorp there bud....hellfires pressure is better now than what kL can do.
I don't know. I don't believe that any Kung Lao variation is better than Hellfire/Ninjutsu Scorpion, any Kano variation, or Spectral Ermac. Maybe the other Ermac variations as well. Displacer Raiden might be the biggest hidden gem on the game right now.Kenshi
Scorpion
Sub-Zero
Raiden
Ermac
Bo' Rai Cho
Jason
Tanya
Tremor
Kano
He's not better than Scorpion, Sub-Zero, Raiden, Ermac, Jason or Kano.Kenshi
Scorpion
Sub-Zero
Raiden
Ermac
Bo' Rai Cho
Jason
Tanya
Tremor
Kano
Do JkDk twice for 33. Also you can do B32 instead of the second S4.ExSpin-4-hat spin-4-spin-jkdk-21= 32%
Where is the midscreen meterless damage? I can barely touch 34% And that's pretty average. midscreen unless I get a jump-in.I think his biggest problem is his walk speed. He has no real mix up, grabs and his plus frames got nerfed, so you want to open people up in the neutral with his mids. However, he has what is probably bottom 3 walk speed. His backdash is also pretty bad. Not the worst in the game, but bad.
He still has really high meterless damage and EX spin is one of the best moves in the game. Just sometimes I feel like I can never open anyone up, and despite all of the mids and good D4, being slower than Goro kind of holds him back lol.
Still a good character. Even if he's bottom 10 or whatever, he's still good. This isn't the Kenshi forums.
Edit: To expand, basically his mix up right now, is grab them on wake up, or go into your string. That's actually pretty good considering how much meterless damage he gets midscreen. He also has his orbiting hat that breaks armor on wake up.
So the character can still win. If he got his walk speed buffed to like, middle of the cast, he'd be dope imo.
Tempest.You playing tempest still? How you getting over 30% with the armor breaking spin?
walkspeeds meh but tbh his biggest issue is his pokesKung Lao is still my favorite Mortal Kombat character, however, I don't have fun using him on this game.
My biggest problem is not that he's not that great anymore, it's that he doesn't feel like Kung Lao. When I think of Kung Lao, I think of this super mobile character. He has what I think is bottom 3 walk speed, his teleport is just bad, with a lot of characters getting 7 frame pokes he's now one of the slower characters button wise, etc. His backdash is horrendous.
F2 is thought to be a great punisher, but in reality there are several characters with 9 frame punishes right now.
Lao is very good at basically a tank playstyle. Does around 33-35 percent meterless midscreen, EX spin grants him over 30% which is a big deal, breaks armor. For me personally this isn't how I want the character to play. I'd give up damage for a buff to his walk speed and backdash/teleport.
Edit: His divekick is cool but at a high level it's very situational imo.
Kung Lao was unfairly treated with all those nerf from development, when they decided to make his TELE. goes down and to not give him a low starter to begin with and all those useless string that has the same outcome ,and same punish on blk ,Poulo and his team need to rethink about what they have don to him , given the fact that there are characters like alien and leatherface in the game ,nerfing Kung lao hat was shit ; because there are people like FT ,Takeda,Alien ,Kotal, Leatherface, Reptile with jump in attack that hit from 3.1/4 screen and its not a problem , so unfair ,sigh NRS need to fix Kung Lao , poulo please fix Kung Lao ...Kung Lao is still my favorite Mortal Kombat character, however, I don't have fun using him on this game.
My biggest problem is not that he's not that great anymore, it's that he doesn't feel like Kung Lao. When I think of Kung Lao, I think of this super mobile character. He has what I think is bottom 3 walk speed, his teleport is just bad, with a lot of characters getting 7 frame pokes he's now one of the slower characters button wise, etc. His backdash is horrendous.
F2 is thought to be a great punisher, but in reality there are several characters with 9 frame punishes right now.
Lao is very good at basically a tank playstyle. Does around 33-35 percent meterless midscreen, EX spin grants him over 30% which is a big deal, breaks armor. For me personally this isn't how I want the character to play. I'd give up damage for a buff to his walk speed and backdash/teleport.
Edit: His divekick is cool but at a high level it's very situational imo.
Kung Lao is fine, those other characters need to be nerfed.Kung Lao was unfairly treated with all those nerf from development, when they decided to make his TELE. goes down and to not give him a low starter to begin with and all those useless string that has the same outcome ,and same punish on blk ,Poulo and his team need to rethink about what they have don to him , given the fact that there are characters like alien and leatherface in the game ,nerfing Kung lao hat was shit ; because there are people like FT ,Takeda,Alien ,Kotal, Leatherface, Reptile with jump in attack that hit from 3.1/4 screen and its not a problem , so unfair ,sigh NRS need to fix Kung Lao , poulo please fix Kung Lao ...
1. It's "Paulo".Kung Lao was unfairly treated with all those nerf from development, when they decided to make his TELE. goes down and to not give him a low starter to begin with and all those useless string that has the same outcome ,and same punish on blk ,Poulo and his team need to rethink about what they have don to him , given the fact that there are characters like alien and leatherface in the game ,nerfing Kung lao hat was shit ; because there are people like FT ,Takeda,Alien ,Kotal, Leatherface, Reptile with jump in attack that hit from 3.1/4 screen and its not a problem , so unfair ,sigh NRS need to fix Kung Lao , poulo please fix Kung Lao ...
F2 and B3 are lackluster mids now?Kung Lao atm is basically a run cancel character without run cancels, or a neutral character with bottom 3 walk speed and lackluster mids.
But he has EX spin so YEAH BURH LEGGO
You make it sound like you're responding to someone even though you're not lol.When I talk about him only really having EX spin going for him, that's not really downplay.
EX spin is easily up there for best move in the game. That's just all he really has going for him at a competitive level, so the appeal isn't too strong.
F2 is essentially a high at max range. B3 only has utility for post ex hat spin and oki situations as it's too slow to reliably throw out in neutral.F2 and B3 are lackluster mids now?
Sorry, I was just adding to my posts from yesterday. I didn't read your post from before until now.You make it sound like you're responding to someone even though you're not lol.
F2 is an amazing whiff punisher however, something that can't be ignored. I know we were talking about it whether or not it was a good mid, but from what I've seen of Lao, F2 is being utilized to very deadly effect as a staggering tool, which it seems pretty good at cause it's a mid.F2 is essentially a high at max range. B3 only has utility for post ex hat spin and oki situations as it's too slow to reliably throw out in neutral.
So not the greatest mids ever.
F2 hat has a gap, F23 has a gap, and F21 hat whiffs on most of the cast.F2 is an amazing whiff punisher however, something that can't be ignored. I know we were talking about it whether or not it was a good mid, but from what I've seen of Lao, F2 is being utilized to very deadly effect as a staggering tool, which it seems pretty good at cause it's a mid.
B3 may be slow, but again, it has great staggering potential. As a mid it still seems decent enough, I saw it thrown around in the neutral very often in high level play.
Of course you can't compare playing against Lao vs playing Lao yourself (me being the former), but I don't like that F2 and B3 are being made out as bad normals and people saying Lao has a mid problem.
Won't deny the positives you listed in the rest of the post. But Lao's stagger game was nerfed due to the universal changes, and there are characters that do what he does but better. I would say that his normals are not very good when compared relatively to the rest of the cast.Of course you can't compare playing against Lao vs playing Lao yourself (me being the former), but I don't like that F2 and B3 are being made out as bad normals and people saying Lao has a mid problem.