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Asodimazze

Asodimazze

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I must try these hitbox fixes asap! I saw that S1 is still whiffing though :/
They tried the stuff just like in my video, against Cassie crouch block. I'm glad they probably watched it and it was useful
 
ismael4790

ismael4790

Stay focused or get Caged
Asodimazze said:
I must try these hitbox fixes asap! I saw that S1 is still whiffing though :/
They tried the stuff just like in my video, against Cassie crouch block. I'm glad they probably watched it and it was useful
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Yeah, looks like they watched your video xD

Though it seems the issues are not fully fixed. But ok, they are trying at least. 113 on rising mimic seems more consistent too...
 
ThatchyFawn

ThatchyFawn

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No mention of the elbow during the stream, but they said some changes wouldn't be talked about and instead would just be listed when they post the notes, so hopefully itll be there.
 
Asodimazze

Asodimazze

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The general fixes might help us too. I don't think we needed any option select, and the air normals hitbox nerf surely is a benefit for Johnny Cage.
Maybe we have a better character now....can't wait to try this patch! :D
 
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P.F.

Noob
'Complete' list of changes from the patch notes:
  • Johnny Cage - Adjusted several regular attack collisions to hit more consistently on ducking opponents and in combos
  • Johnny Cage - Towards+BP is now -1 on hit (up from -8)
  • Johnny Cage - Towards+FK,BK is now -3 on block (up from -8)
  • Johnny Cage (Stunt Double) - Can now also execute Mimic Eclipse Kick cancel out of Mimic summon
Source: http://community.wbgames.com/t5/Latest-Updates/Patch-Notes-8-31-2015/ba-p/756091

Opinions? Does anyone think this will drastically change the meta for Cage? Hitbox fixes were definitely a big problem for him, so it's nice some of those have been addressed, gives him a fighting chance against females. The middle two changes make it harder to punish his OH and knee pressure...also good. The last...well, I didn't know this was an issue honestly. But it's good to have?

Do you think Cage is significantly better now or just about the same?
 
ismael4790

ismael4790

Stay focused or get Caged
P.F. said:
'Complete' list of changes from the patch notes:
  • Johnny Cage - Adjusted several regular attack collisions to hit more consistently on ducking opponents and in combos
  • Johnny Cage - Towards+BP is now -1 on hit (up from -8)
  • Johnny Cage - Towards+FK,BK is now -3 on block (up from -8)
  • Johnny Cage (Stunt Double) - Can now also execute Mimic Eclipse Kick cancel out of Mimic summon
Source: http://community.wbgames.com/t5/Latest-Updates/Patch-Notes-8-31-2015/ba-p/756091

Opinions? Does anyone think this will drastically change the meta for Cage? Hitbox fixes were definitely a big problem for him, so it's nice some of those have been addressed, gives him a fighting chance against females. The middle two changes make it harder to punish his OH and knee pressure...also good. The last...well, I didn't know this was an issue honestly. But it's good to have?

Do you think Cage is significantly better now or just about the same?
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If the hitboxes issues are really fixed, stunt double and A-List have reasons to be happy now xD

Fisticuffs almost remains as it was. I honestly expected a buff to the Fistbump like the one Kano got.
 
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P.F.

Noob
ismael4790 said:
If the hitboxes issues are really fixed, stunt double and A-List have reasons to be happy now xD

Fisticuffs almost remains as it was. I honestly expected a buff to the Fistbump like the one Kano got.
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Fisticuffs does benefit from the hitbox and string changes...although it still remains the 'non-variation' in my book, as that is stuff Johnny gets in general. They should have at least made Fistbump last longer.
 
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P.F.

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Kompetitor said:
Does A list benefit from this other than the hitbox fixes?
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I don't think so, as A-List could make his F2 and F34 safe anyway. Now they can do it without stamina I guess?

But you also have to consider that that F2 and F34 are safe but not plus...A-List can make them plus with SKRC.
 
Asodimazze

Asodimazze

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Cage is pretty much the same, we just got to wait for the patch and see what they fixed and what still whiffs.
Stunt double was buffed a bit since F34 is now totally safe, but that's all. We will probably benefit more from the general fixes and the new meta than from Johnny particular changes.

I predict a decent mid tier placement for A-List and Stunt Double, but better forget that fisticuff exist.

Edit: A-List F34 is NOT the same as the general F34. It is listed at -11 on block and the animation is different, I doubt the patch affected it
 
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