Poser Paul
#1 Unbreakable
His zoning is pretty good, but it's not even meant to zone, it's his space control. Used for checks
His zoning is pretty good, but it's not even meant to zone, it's his space control. Used for checks
How can you say that most of the zoning we have is slow unless we meter burn joker and Batman out zone us how does that make any kind of sense lol? His zoning is sub par even the air lantern battery a move meant to counter cyborg air zoning,supergirl,blue beetle darkseid,deadshot,harley, and Superman is not very good it's more negative then our grounded lanterns battery sure that makes sense ok but why in god does it have the same start up frames as the grounded one wtf at least make it faster I guess they want me to do trait to make it shoot faster but then I lose my back 13 trait lift bnb shit I might as well use meter burn battery air blast at least that is fast but then I'm burning thru meter just to anti zone???I'm sorry there's not you guys can say that can convince me his zoning doesn't need some love.
This what you stated is exactly why he needs some love. Once people know how to fight him even if we adjust or step up our game as others on here stated lol his damage don't compare to them and his gaps in his offensive mixups suck and his lack luster zoning hurts but people don't want to admit that.
You do understand you're not supposed to lames those characters out unless you have the life lead right?
You have to sacrifice damage, but you can get pretty supreme oki on most characters with traited Lantern's Might. Cheap plug time!
You do know that those two have very deadly corner setups right joker teeth in corner with his long reaching crowbar gets him in and he has safer mixups then us plus his damage output is higher and he has a decent counter so if you try to oki him he can just use the counter the overhead unless of course you do the jumping 3 reset that's different or the back 13 but that's guys zoning is no joke gains meter faster then us same as Batman they always have meter against us that's a issue in those fights we have to give up more meter for our gamplans to work.
How come your not using the jumping 3 instead it's more ambiguous mixup?
Awesome man, thank you very much, I will learn the setup and give it a try. Hey if nothing else, it's a way to catch someone sleeping who is so used to seeing the f2 setup on oki.
His wake up is only a parry, you can oki him all you want. You can just ex b3 his crowbar, yeah his zoning it hard but that's the only thing. Gl just gets outzoned, he doesn't need better zoning tools
I don't think it is actually, but even if it was, there are more options out, unfortunately, on regular wakeup. If they delay and you miss you still have the same set of options, but it's easier to backdash out, easier to change direction on an invincible wakeup, and more.
this is literally all im saying but im getting flamed for it lol he's low mid tier again
High mid tier, top 15
Could be your approach, just sayin'
That's exactly the issue no one seems to get he is good solid character but still needs a bit of a buff I don't want him to be ok just have a more soild foundation that's all I want.
lanterns zoning tools dont suck at all, just because you cant mindlessly fire them out constantly like some characters doesnt mean they're bad. mix them up, good use of overcharged lantern is a big thing in our zoning game, also remember when we are in trait our projectiles are improved! fast and slow bf1 can really help mix things up, fast can help with trades and slow can be good to follow in and start pressure.
That's the thing I don't mindlessly throw out projectiles it's just against a good player that has a character like idk Darkseid who zones out gl and can teleport in and out of our pressure has a safe wakeup and higher damage. As a gl player I don't have the luxury of even trying to zone back unless I spend meter or use my trait I usually wanna keep for juggle combos so I don't have to depend on my meter to do my juggles. So your saying I should just use trait to zone him back when best I might get is a already losing exchange cause his zoning gives him a hard knock down unlike mine only that slow roll over that is super negative gets us a hard knock down in zoning wars lol??? Dude come on im sorry but you guys need to stop acting like us players complaining about him that we suck and don't know what we are talking about cause that is bs I know I'm right you can go into that fight against a good player and see I'm right gl zoning is sub par and that's why players like Gross barely use the zoning but just goes for up close game.
honestly think you need to work on the match ups a bit more or trying mixing up how and when your throwing your projectiles and which ones, maybe your struggling vs darkseid because your being too predictable and just trying to trade with his lasers, which wont work.
Wut?
I'm not trading with lasers that's suicide I'm not dumb your stating the obvious I know me the match up best bet in to get in on him and keep him grounded but alot easier said then done against someone who knows the matchup as well. Plus most players have admitted on here Darkseid is one of his worst matchups so I'm not crazy when saying it is annoying.
read the entire thread before you insult me or dont @ me lol.
I don't think people get what we are saying don't want to broken just tweaked a bit in a good way not a broken way
I didn't insult you.
people just dont know the character very well. even if he had black adams damage he wouldnt be as broken as adam is now. he would need a ton to be OP. theres almost no chance of that happening unless they give him some unreal buffs. but he needs to be fixed lanterns might doesnt even work half the time for one thats something that needs to be fixed. he also needs a wake up. he's not fine he's not okay he is below average with issues.