I think everyone here agrees in principle with what you are saying, fenix--myself included--but at the same time I'm not going to blindly accept anything anyone says. Onryioki is not being racist or anything against you, I don't think, but you're not giving him a fair chance to respond because you are attacking him constantly.
Then you're fucking blind. By God dammed choice. And it makes me sick.
1) There have been over a hundred consecutive days of protests in cities around the globe, that have been met with open violence from police and the government, and people like you saying it's not real.
Look, I support peaceful protesting (I've done it myself) but its no surprise there has been violence from the police and government because not all of the
protests have been peaceful.
2) Athletes, celebrities, store owners, influencers, etc using their respective platforms to raise awareness only to be told time and time again that this is not the time for it and not to make it "political".
How so? Using the NBA as an example, much of the league is constantly raising awareness and being encouraged to do so (unless we're talking about issues in China, LOL). The NBA's poster boy, LBJ, has been doing nothing but raising awareness. And the NFL has followed right after. Hell, even hockey has participated despite having the least non-white representation compared to basketball and football.
3) politicians, screaming for reform, attempting bill after bill after bill after bill to get passed into law to reign in the horrible monsters only to be stone walled by the Trump political army and people like you who say those people are wrong, monsters don't exist.
Could you please provide more details? Which bills are you referring to?
Also, I agree that Trump is scum... but you should really look into the pasts of some of the democratic politicians you are supporting now. For example, Bill Clinton has been used as a figure of endorsement, and... well... yeah, just Google him if you're not up-to-date on all of his misdeeds.
4) people like me and all the other "people posting on social media" having what little voice they have drowned out be people LIKE YOU who say all you're doing is hashtagging. You don't fucking know me. You don't know what protests I've been to from my kombat league record.
I would argue that everyday people like you and myself probably have the biggest voice we've ever had. But I don't think this is what Onriyoki was saying at all.
5) historically reconstructive books and articles being published by credible sources only to be #fakenews'd into oblivion by idiots like Ben Shapiro, Trump, and YOU who would rather watch a YouTube synopsis of it than digest the literary content.
Do I need to go on?
I get you're frustrated but nobody will want to speak to you if you're calling people idiots and cursing all over the place. I'm coming from a place of respect when I say this (and also because arguing is literally my profession, so I've seen it all).
This sad fucking paragraph is what people unaffected by systemic racism have been saying for going four hundred years while racists have been putting cigarettes out on our foreheads. Yeah, you know what Trump isn't the first racist in power, nor was bush, nor was Reagan, nor was Lincoln, nor was jackson, nor was king butt fucking James, but if just one of those assholes had been stopped instead of excused we could have progress. Instead now we have an entire generation of generation of generations of absolute fucking (soap bars in my mouth) united under the banner that America was great at some point that none of them dare specify because every single point of american success came on the backs of rampantly excused and later ignored black oppression.
I don't think people are ignoring the issues entirely. Human and civil rights have come a long way since slavery was abolished, no? Are certain issues ignored or not given enough attention? Sure, but as a whole there have been improvements to the system.
We have made it inescapably clear what we want, and you would know that if you trusted us, and not our enemies. Let me spell it out for you, equality. The same set of rules applying to our race than others . It's not hard. We want to commit crimes and be punished the same way others are, or have them punished the way we are. We want to be free to buy stuff and be screwed by sellers in the same way as everyone else and not on some unique black only scale that assumes we're broke. We want our kids to get the whole story from history books and television and not just the version that makes white people look good.
I think we all understand that you want equality, but I think the issue is that part of BLM's political movement has been focused on "reparations", which to a degree is basically asking for differential treatment. I think part of the message has become unclear and convoluted given the influx of news and information overload.
Nobody ever stands up and says they're against thosev things so they call it something else. Communism, marxism, socialism. Wrap it up in a conspiracy, or assassinate the speakers character. But it's always powered by some racist statistic no one can explain" black people just do that more because...", provided by the exact people we say are the problem.
Well, technically, BLM's own co-founder, Patrice Cullors, described herself as a "trained" Marxist. I don't think anyone said it to assassinate her character, she said it herself.
Can you tell me why we commit more violent crime? Can you tell me why we abandon our children? Why we seek drugs? Why we drop out of school? You ducked it earlier, so probably not. Probably society. probably "the government". But what you do know is that it's not your fault, not systemic racism, and it not simply because we are black. Great Job. Very brave.
Poverty. No matter the race, you put enough people in a room and deny them basic necessities, like food, shelter, and a working toilet, and you will get crime. And crime creates more crime. This goes for any race.
Just so you know a bit about me if you choose to read the above, my people were also slaves (we're white). And my country is muchhhhhhh poorer than yours, assuming you live in the U.S.. Where I'm from, there is a lot of corruption and a lot of hardship. Not much opportunity to move up in life, and if you do manage to make a lot of money, the system is very corrupt (funny story, my dad still lives back home, and his employer straight up refused to pay him 6 months of wages. Police didn't do anything, courts didn't do anything. Its been 4 years now).
So as much as America is a racist shit-hole, it also has a lot that works and many things people do not appreciate. To that end, there are many blacks in America who have been celebrated and also had the ability to earn a lot of money, the kind of which some of us will never see.
I'm not denying the existence of racism, but no society will be perfect, and that same goes for America given its population size and long history. But if you look into what's been happening around the world in the past and even recently, you will see that there is a lot of nasty shit going on out there.
One thing. I have no desire to piss you off or argue with you. So I'd be more than happy to chat and exchange ideas with you, but only if its coming from a good place.
