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Make some new ones fam, with 'Electoral College Dropout' on them. Ez money.
Make some new ones fam, with 'Electoral College Dropout' on them. Ez money.
No, Mike Z was banned from ALL skullgirl commentary positions indefinitely as well as a 2 year ban from offline and online competition until July 2022. If you click the next photo you'll see who signed off on the agreement too, dudes screwed. Even signatures from the european skullgirl scene on there
So where exactly do you draw the line? I get it, if some person 10 years ago said they don't find hispanic women attractive, they definitely shouldn't lose their job or get "cancelled" as you're calling it. But if someone makes vile comments or has a history of them why shouldn't they get fired? Companies don't care about free speech dude, some of em have hearts and don't like hateful speech BUT more importantly they just want to make money. If Nick Cannons comments are going to cost the company money he's gone. You continually saying peoples speech should be free of consequences is just off to me there is a limit to that. If you were at work, and your coworker consistently talked about how much he hated europeans how dumb they are, how much they smell, how he is superior to them, etc essentially you know this dude thinks you and your life is insignificant. Yet your company never got rid of him in fact, dudes getting the same pay, steady work, hell even raises! Would you be okay with that? How about if there's a man who continually tells a women he wants to sexually assault her but never goes through with it, the women goes to the police but the police say hey, "its just free speech, hes not acting on it so its all good." Is that ok? Maybe I am missing something. I'm all for free speech, but certain things come with consequences, that aspect shouldn't go away. Finally I ask you this, how else will you teach people that this type of thinking is wrong if they never have consequences for it? I mean if you don't lose your job then its cool to think that black people should all be dead and voice that, or that jewish people should all be dead. In some of the cases of these people losing jobs, its not like they are saying they prefer the color red over blue, they are saying some vile shit and getting punished for it, as they should.
As Maya Angelou said, believe who someone is the first time they show you.
The fact that anyone took this "run" seriously gives me real cause for concern on many levels. I listened to Chance The Rapper give his take about it on the last Joe Budden pod and was flabbergasted.
I had to believe cuz trump is our president after he got in I wont be getting surprised anymore man, whoever it is.
Oh that's fair. It's not the celebrity part or the fact that he's legitimately mentally ill, because we've seen how that goes; it's the amount of people who are so unfamiliar with the process that they think someone, famous or otherwise, can declare in the middle of the damned summer and actually have enough time or room to be taken seriously or allowed in legally.
Ohhh yeah haha I thought you just meant in general I get you now
I don't lean towards knee-jerk firing a guy for speaking his mind. Market doesn't even have a chance to decide. That's me.
while this is ethically wrong, there are no omnipresent social structures of oppression by a strong group towards a weaker group behind this. its not the same as racism.
What in the fuck?
If someone told you the ingredients to a ham and cheese sandwich and asked you to read it back to them, you'd give a list of 12 items.
You keep saying this, as if I'm reading too deeply into what you're saying, but really, what are you saying? You specifically pulled up a video of black women talking about the ways anti-blackness affected their life and mocked one section of it, were annoyed at Crimson's deployment of "racial victimhood," and are now specifically trying to ask why Nick Cannon speaking out against whites isn't cause for his termination. What am I missing, here?
I suggest that you stop trying to misconstrue my analysis in order to inaccurately portray me as a bigot as you have attempted to do in the past. First of all, I was quoting Nick Cannon which is why the word savage was in quoting marks. Second of all, my point is that no race is more predisposed to committing atrocities than any other race. Humans of all races have engaged in violent behavior for as long as history has been recorded.
You are falsely equating harassment at the workplace and threats of sexual abuse, both of which violate the law, with free speech.
Read (not that you would really want to) the book "White Fragility" by Robin DiAngelo. People on the left have been trying to redefine the word racism for many years. Some ideas in this thread are just a product of the lunacy.
but you had an issue with mike z getting cancelled correct? Even though he had a history of racism in the workplace as well as making numerous women uncomfortable. This is why I am confused by your definition of freedom of speech, or did you just not know the full scope of things he has done?
Not portraying you as anything, but I think it should be acknowledged or you at least deserve to be warned when the things you're saying start to veer into the same direction that prominent white nationalists take when trying to appear nuanced about their bigotry. Like I said, one doesn't need to be actually racist to say something racist, but at least if you know you probably won't make the same mistake again.
I never defended Mike Z or argued against his cancellation. I think what Mike Z said was worse than the picture that Filipino Champ posted.
I have no idea what "mistake" I made in the first place aside from stating the obvious about human history. Considering that I have argued my points calmly and respectfully in this thread for 49 pages, I do not need to be warned by anyone about anything, including you.
True.
I mean you kinda did though
I am definitely not saying you agree with what mike z said, you've said multiple times you don't agree, however, you've voiced multiple times that you support freedom of consequences, by that logic shouldn't you also be against mike z's cancellation? Its not congruent with what you were saying in the past, particularly "free speech exists to protect controversial thoughts, ideas, and opinions." I bring this up because I am sure you said this before you were aware of the tweets I linked. For the record I think Mike Z deserves everything coming to him and more, even if all he said was the I can't breathe joke. His history just made it easier for him to get dealt with. So then Mike Z's comments are where you draw the line?
In a world where someone tweeting #watermelonlivesmatter is grounds for a lifetime ban, how a public figure can get away with saying that all people of a different skin color are literally deficient lesser humans is far beyond me. Comments like this make even phrenologists look good. The ignorance, blatant racism, and complete lack of self-awareness is just mind-boggling.
He's not getting away with it though, i keep seeing it on twitter, reddit, my friends talking about it on instagram, he lost his partnership with viacom, a company he was partnered with for 2 decades, which means he lost the show he created he didnt just get a slap on the wrist.
First of all, corporations and businesses have the right to associate or dissociate with whomever they like. Second of all, I draw the line on Mike Z's actions when he allegedly sexually assaulted a female co-worker. He is a potential threat to women in the fighting game community.
If Nick Cannon were white, not only would he lose the show that he created, he would be instantly fired from all companies that he worked for.
The fuck does that have anything to do with white nationalism, you goof?
