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I feel like b32d1 should be more plus on hit too , that would be really nice since it has a gap in it and its like-16? And only like +3 on hit lol also make b32u1 23 recovery again please
I feel like b32d1 should be more plus on hit too , that would be really nice since it has a gap in it and its like-16? And only like +3 on hit lol also make b32u1 23 recovery again please
He has a good mixup game and decent footsies if that's what you're saying , but has no decent fast mids to counterpoke other than d1 ( 12 frame d3 +3 on hit lol ) nor a way around it , top 3 worst backdash , no low profiling move , slowish armor w bad reward ( other than Outlaw and still is slowish ) , no way to negate most armor moves , plus frames only w EX SG and the only thing you can make them respect is a d4 / f24 ( and they still have options of armor ) , no way to get around zoning ( as i said EX slide doesn't give him knockdown pressure ) , throw negative on hit , no consistent anti air and his 50/50 are actually unsafe especially if they have around 15 frame startup armor , no consistent way to stop people from jumping away on neutral.
Come on man you should know this isn't even a talking point. That has very little to do with his tier placement, plenty of people in the community play other characters because they fit their preferred archetype better or they're a character loyalist. Even then Gunshow and Arma at the very least still play him, King's been playing him and Saltface has even picked him up now so it's not even true that noone's using him. Too many variations/charactes as well for lots of people to be playing the one
His slide low profiles, and why give him a good back dash when he already has good defensive reversals and wakeups. His offense is probably one of the best in the game because of the ability to cancel 21122 on any punch. He has a 50/50 on jump in, and his standing 2 covers decent distance, he doesn't need a fast moving mid that'll just turn him into a nastier version of Johnny Cage. Erron Black is perfect as is, leave him be...
I main Marksman too, I actually think he is unbalanced lol
Overpowered or under? why?
Yeah it's OP. The way I pressure with 21122 in the corner. Builds crazy amount of meter and stuff. I haven't seen a high level player deal with it yet, let alone even do it. I don't think people are playing with it right tbh
Im assuming your talking about mixing up with EXsg and gun cancel, but you dont need to be in the corner for it, and yea builds crazy meter. But it ends up being just a guess of when theyll armor or not, in which case I jump over or block. I hardly think its strong enough to say he's overpowered when your trading an insane njp and armored launcher for outlaw and footsies/zoning for gunslinger though
I believe he's talking about marksman
I agree with all the buffs crathen mentioned as i think it could help him and wont make him broken , however outlaw restanding is abit ridiculous but i cant upplay my character so i gotta agree
There are SOS 3 spacing that make the last shot a complete string. Its good to practice the spacing in the corner for guarenteed chip.
yeah mid screen its even worse. Everybody is mistaken, Marksman is Erron's best variation, it's just that nobody plays it at it's maximum potential.
I hope you know I was talking about Marksman
Only thing i agree with in this thread
Nobody plays a character at his "maximum potential" yet , also i wouldn't say his best , id say it goes even with outlaw and gunslinger.
The 3 are too different, and when I say maximum potential I mean at the time. People are saying Outlaw is the best because of it's had so much success since MKX been out not realizing that it's being played by a godlike player (Sonic Fox)
Marksman has everything Outlaw has other than the NJP and the damage you get from the sword stab. Marksman has better pressure, zoning tools and execution. People complain about it needing too much stamina but a list is the same way and it's top tier
I know they are. Different , im talking about how good they are , outlaw has a godlike armored reversal that leads into dmg+oki , it has one of the best njps in the game , gunslinger has great zoning and great / somewhat safe chip and meterbuilding and it actually covers outlaws/marksman bad mus ? Or most of them atleast , and marksman has great corner damage and safe 50/50s , all 3 are the same in terms of how good they are maybe outlaw is tiny hair better.
