General/Other - D'Vorah D'Vorah General Discussion Thread

[VAAAAAAAAN]

while they didn't make a big deal of it....venomous just got pretty heavily buffed

Yea, removed the ability to mash reversal, that's fucking awesome. More venom stacking combos is awesome. Also, I CAN FINALLY USE THE BEST BRUTALITY IN THE GAME with Brood Mother! I wonder what's going to be linkable after ex bug shot. Hopefully 212, and 11B2. F44 is wishful thinking.

 

[TopTierHarley]

Yea, removed the ability to mash reversal, that's fucking awesome. More venom stacking combos is awesome. Also, I CAN FINALLY USE THE BEST BRUTALITY IN THE GAME with Brood Mother! I wonder what's going to be linkable after ex bug shot. Hopefully 212, and 11B2. F44 is wishful thinking.

not to mention they removed the auto block when using krawler in combos, that means we can now probably do, f11 krawler 212

 

[HellblazerHawkman]

I'm really excited to get back into this tomorrow. Gonna be hard between that and the Phantom Pain, but our Kytinn Queen deserves it

 

[Nuovo_Cabjoy]

So excited to play Venemous again, the tick damage will be insane!

 

[VAAAAAAAAN]

They didn't make venom kill though...... :/

 

[TopTierHarley]

They didn't make venom kill though...... :/

True, but they added more normals that add venom so I'm fine.

 

[HellblazerHawkman]

^Yeah, I'm happy with more setups that utilize Venomous' whole variation rather than being able to kill with it. I'm seeing her bug spray reset becoming really dangerous

 

[VAAAAAAAAN]

Did they remove the Brood Mother Bug cancel combo f11 bc 212? I was doing it very consistently 20 mins ago before I downloaded the patch now I can't get it. The link from the double bug shot is very tight as well. But the enhanced double bug shot is a giant windows or 2 bars. It looks like they took out what little bug cancel combos she had though so. Wtf. Also f11 is the only thing that combos off of the double bug blast, it seems like. F11 krawler after double bug blast does work though and you can continue a ground combo after or launch.

 

[11411181]

BUGSPRAY 5050 VENOM ERRYDAY

*dubstep breakdown*

 

[VAAAAAAAAN]

This is now possible.

The link from bug shot to f11 is very tight though and very spacing dependent.

 

[TopTierHarley]

Did they remove the Brood Mother Bug cancel combo f11 bc 212? I was doing it very consistently 20 mins ago before I downloaded the patch now I can't get it. The link from the double bug shot is very tight as well. But the enhanced double bug shot is a giant windows or 2 bars. It looks like they took out what little bug cancel combos she had though so. Wtf. Also f11 is the only thing that combos off of the double bug blast, it seems like. F11 krawler after double bug blast does work though and you can continue a ground combo after or launch.

F11 cancel is gone

 

[VAAAAAAAAN]

F11 cancel is gone

Seems like a pretty big nerf not to mention in the patch notes.

 

[Jermball]

is it me, or does it seem slightly harder to WGC cancel? I usually can do all of them no problem.. but it feels like the timing is slightly more strict.

 

[VAAAAAAAAN]

After attempting the no longer existent brood mother ones for like 30 mins, sq feels smooth as butter.

 

[VAAAAAAAAN]

Nice pseudo buff is that you can no longer cancel into air throw on block. Now you can't be more than -10 with b12 on block. That string is super hard to hit confirm.

 

[HoneyBee]

Nice pseudo buff is that you can no longer cancel into air throw on block. Now you can't be more than -10 with b12 on block. That string is super hard to hit confirm.

That's not how it works. The air throw will still come out on block for 21u3 and b12. It won't come out after a block jump in attack like ji3.

is it me, or does it seem slightly harder to WGC cancel? I usually can do all of them no problem.. but it feels like the timing is slightly more strict.

Yes, the WGC cancels are harder to execute when canceling into s1, d1, f1 and b1. I think it's a glitch because moves like s2, d3, d4 cancel as they always have. It seems like her cancels into any '1' move require more frames for no apparent reason.

 

[Jermball]

intresting find, I just thought it was me. thanks for a quick response.

 

[VAAAAAAAAN]

These last 2 combos are very technical. Idk if it's worth it. The more practical stuff is coming. I'm playing around with Jacqui right now though. She jails from so many string now it's fucking crazy. High tech might be amazing now. Sorry off topic.

 

[11411181]

Things I want to check when the new patch drops:
- Venom Damage on NJP into F22 spray vs NJP into 112 spray midscreen (is it possible now to catch them for the restand?)
- How much a basic 112 or even 11b2 whiffpunish can go for midscreen
- Check if F34 into 21U3xxAir Throw is more possible now instead of beeing a bee's dick out of range after the u3 hits or even whiffing the u3 hit and still connecting the air throw...

 

[Skeezer12]

Did they remove the Brood Mother Bug cancel combo f11 bc 212? I was doing it very consistently 20 mins ago before I downloaded the patch now I can't get it. The link from the double bug shot is very tight as well. But the enhanced double bug shot is a giant windows or 2 bars. It looks like they took out what little bug cancel combos she had though so. Wtf. Also f11 is the only thing that combos off of the double bug blast, it seems like. F11 krawler after double bug blast does work though and you can continue a ground combo after or launch.

you can still do it

 

[Skeezer12]

Im so mad about the swarm queen cancels now . Is it me or F112 Wasp Cancel 2 doesnt Jail anymore ?

 

[VAAAAAAAAN]

Im so mad about the swarm queen cancels now . Is it me or F112 Wasp Cancel 2 doesnt Jail anymore ?

It does. It feels much tighter.

 

[smokey]

Oh dear Venomous is so much dirtier now I love it! d1, d3, d4 all combo into that super fast spray. Not to mention her 11b2 starter combos adding even more poison to the mix.
Brood Mommy's f11 krawler rc 212 puddle f44 ovip is a nice 30% meterless now as well.

You serious that d4~spray combos? Can you record this?

 

[VAAAAAAAAN]

You serious that d4~spray combos? Can you record this?

D1, d3, and d4 universally can't combo. I think they mean off a juggle.

 

[CaptainCM]

Oh dear Venomous is so much dirtier now I love it! d1, d3, d4 all combo into that super fast spray. Not to mention her 11b2 starter combos adding even more poison to the mix.
Brood Mommy's f11 krawler rc 212 puddle f44 ovip is a nice 30% meterless now as well.

They also can't mash reversals while blocking spray now. Pretty good.