General/Other - D'Vorah D'Vorah General Discussion Thread

[Iceysparkz]

Are you talking about Venomous? If so, b1 into spray is an easy input, since you can't really hit confirm it just do b1 into df1. I do it by making a sweeping motion after I do B1. F34 into F44 is just a timing thing

Hey Harley, yeah venomous. It is simple but feels weird and it just not come out... the other comes out sometimes when I let the person drop around my midsection. I will just keep trying it, thanks a lot. I will try your rolling motion.

 

[TopTierHarley]

Hey Harley, yeah venomous. It is simple but feels weird and it just not come out... the other comes out sometimes when I let the person drop around my midsection. I will just keep trying it, thanks a lot. I will try your rolling motion.

Yea no problem. It feels weird because you are going from back to down to forward it is an awkward motion. Yea try letting them fall a bit more so you can recover from the f34

 

[RunwayMafia]

Here's something I'm working on. I'm trying to optimize this stuff still but it might be useful. Might not. If you have any ideas on how to optimize let me know.

This looks legit. Great find!

 

[VAAAAAAAAN]

This looks legit. Great find!

Thanks! I also made this video about the SQ meaty puddle setups. I don't see any sq's doing this still, this late in the games life, so I felt like I should make a video just to put the info out there.

I don't think I created the tech but I did find it on my own like within the first couple weeks of the game.

 

[RunwayMafia]

Thanks! I also made this video about the SQ meaty puddle setups. I don't see any sq's doing this still, this late in the games life, so I felt like I should make a video just to put the info out there.

I don't think I created the tech but I did find it on my own like within the first couple weeks of the game.

Very nice man. Yeah guys like me and @TopTierHarley have been talking about the b21 into puddle setups for some time now. I love them.

You can also end your corner combos with 212~swarm and achieve the same setup.

And you are right about very few Dvorah's doing this...HoneyBae has just bow incorporated this into his game.

 

[VAAAAAAAAN]

Lol yea I saw one of his streams he said he didn't know it before Evo

 

[KNX]

Thanks! I also made this video about the SQ meaty puddle setups. I don't see any sq's doing this still, this late in the games life, so I felt like I should make a video just to put the info out there.

I don't think I created the tech but I did find it on my own like within the first couple weeks of the game.

I'm sure Floe found this on his stream in like week 1, if he didn't find it he's definitely the first person I saw using it, and this was way back when Bug Cancels were just being figured out... It's commonly known by most players here either way, just not utilized since I think people prefer to just autopilot into damage (not a bad thing), but the meaty swarm setups are strong coupled with her pressure game and easy to confirm off of... Definitely worth incorporating.

 

[KillaGthug4Life]

I've found that D'vorah players don't use it as much because they prefer the damage and delay wakeup can be a problem for this setup. I personally love it because it lows for the pressure to continue after combos. A blocked swarm = another 50/50 to me. Whenever they hold down on knock down, I do two Swarms, one whiffs and the other will hit them on block and grant the vortex.

 

[KNX]

If they delay wakeup it's free f112 pressure. It's easy to react to once you see the Swarm whiff.

 

[Amazing Muzzy Wallace]

Ok guys check this out. So I play venomous for fun and quite fond of the character. As I'm playing, I heard the on the mic that I'm playing against says "you're not a true d'vorah main if you don't play swarm queen". I was wanna hear the d'vorah community input on this

 

[TopTierHarley]

Ok guys check this out. So I play venomous for fun and quite fond of the character. As I'm playing, I heard the on the mic that I'm playing against says "you're not a true d'vorah main if you don't play swarm queen". I was wanna hear the d'vorah community input on this

If you play D'vorah, you're a D'vorah main, regardless of variation. Don't worry about some salty scrub

 

[Amazing Muzzy Wallace]

If you play D'vorah, you're a D'vorah main, regardless of variation. Don't worry about some salty scrub

Exactly what I said lol. But oh well

 

[KillaGthug4Life]

If they delay wakeup it's free f112 pressure. It's easy to react to once you see the Swarm whiff.

If Swarm Whiffs, then their armor eats the F1 and you get punished. But you can bait out delayed wakeups and not too many people do it.

 

[KNX]

If Swarm Whiffs, then their armor eats the F1 and you get punished. But you can bait out delayed wakeups and not too many people do it.

You can't reversal armor after delayed wakeup, if you time it meaty on their wakeup and they are pressing buttons they will get hit. One of the reasons why the f112/f11 EX df1 OS is so useful.

 

[Take$$$]

So apparently this is possible, which means the link is a lot bigger than previously thought

 

[TopTierHarley]

So apparently this is possible, which means the link is a lot bigger than previously thought

How hard is the link? Can't wait to move to test

 

[Take$$$]

How hard is the link? Can't wait to move to test

No idea. Happened off a dropped b1 combo when testing stuff against @The Magician 's Erron a little bit ago before we head over to our local.

 

[VAAAAAAAAN]

Oh yea. I thought it was known. F22 and F112 can be linked from b1. It's not practical by any means but it's there. F4 should also work in theory since its 1 frame faster than F2 but I've never gotten it to link. I think the frame data might be wrong on F2.

 

[TopTierHarley]

Oh yea. I thought it was known. F22 and F112 can be linked from b1. It's not practical by any means but it's there. F4 should also work in theory since its 1 frame faster than F2 but I've never gotten it to link. I think the frame data might be wrong on F2.

B1 linking into F11 I know cause of your video, but I didn't even think about F22.

 

[VAAAAAAAAN]

B1 linking into F11 I know cause of your video, but I didn't even think about F22.

Yea, it's super strict. I just managed to connect the F44 though. So that's also possible.

Side note does anyone have a max damage conversion off anti air F22's I'm trying to make those stray hits hurt more but this is the best I've got so far.

 

[ragemaker]

You guys with all your tech makes me cry tears of joy!!! I love you guys!

 

[Take$$$]

Has anyone else been hit confirming b1s easy as fuck after they made the cancels different between hit and block, or is it just me?

 

[VAAAAAAAAN]

I still have trouble hit confirming mid pressure but it's easier when I just do it raw. But that's mostly just a stamina issue.

 

[ragemaker]

Has anyome else been hit confirming b1s easy as fuck after they made the cancels different between hit and block, or is it just me?

It's not just you. I couldn't even do 112 + WC lol. now I'm close to 100% on all her cancels.

 

[qcevolution]

while they didn't make a big deal of it....venomous just got pretty heavily buffed