Metzos
You will BOW to me!
I might will... Just to prove you my point.
I might will... Just to prove you my point.
Your point won't be proven by a week 1 match that DD might be losing. It'll just show you how to better deal with adam from someone who mains him using your character.
If i try BA it will be a long time research, not just 1 week. Anyway lets not derail further this thread.
Ok let me know plz.
DD's dash has low crush properties. I have avoided low hits with it, but it requires veeeeeery strict timing. Against NW i was just messing around to see if i can avoid his projectile BS as well with it. From the looks of it, it worked.
Aquaman has a parry? You mean his "breaker?" i.e. trait?
the shield(dd3)
Venom. If you read he is going to tp, use venom. It will hit him. Double dashing will get you full combo punished if you try anything after the dash. You need to be more aggressive against him. D3's stuff many wake ups if you time it right. Also after an AS, you have a guaranteed throw attempt. After that you can mix it up with B1, F2 or D3, if your opponent will expect a throw again. His torpedo can be punished with 123 venom, but it depends on the distance Shazam will land after the torpedo, so its not very consistent. Your best bet is to MB venom after you block it, to start pressuring him. DD can easily win against Shazam, if you know the MU.
did you watch the second video uploaded where I took shazam into training mode and showed the degree as to how safe the teleport is?
Just saw it. The reason i said it is because i was always able to punish it when i was playing against Hidan's Shazam. If you expect it, you can punish it and thats the point. I dont care if i have to use one bar to do it. I ll just get it back when i start pressuring. The invincibility frames and phantom hit box of the tp are a bit weird, although after a hard knock down it requires extreme timing to get the wake up done correctly, so it could be stuffed by DD easily. DD is all about hard knock downs. All in all i dont think this makes the particular MU harder though.
So A Well Timed Venom MB is the one and only answer to punish the teleport, as far as you know; (hoped you knew something I didn't
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There are a dozen different more direct adjectives I would have used in this case, I was hoping we'd agree on just how... weird, the properties on this teleport are.Metzos said:
So you're saying... because it's "difficult" to do a special with reversal timing that it ... merits the teleport being how it is because the margin of error is wide enough on the shazam player...Metzos said:
DD is all about getting knock downs and applying pressure to people... so a character going from having virtually no wake up to having an invincible wake up that lets them run away, that costs no meter mind you! and the only guaranteed counter is a prop0erly timed preemptive meter burn tackle... (cause remember from the video, the preemptive meter burned venom was blocked a couple times, the timing isn't very easy!)Metzos said:
I never had any problems with meter management, especially against Shazam. So no, imo, it does not pose such a threat. Also i m starting to believe the reason you couldnt dash in after he did the tp was because you were doing to too early, perhaps, and the invincibility frames had to do something as well. Have you tried doing it delayed ? Also after you hit him with MB venom you can dash in and d3. It will most probably stuff his tp most of the time. Just because they buffed his tp doesnt mean that he can run away freely from DD.So A Well Timed Venom MB is the one and only answer to punish the teleport, as far as you know; (hoped you knew something I didn't
And it's ok because DD can gain the meter back once he starts pressuring...
Assuming of course the Shazam doesn't just wake up teleport again... In which case to punish DD would need to blow another bar to have a chance to punish...
Ah, I can see now.
There are a dozen different more direct adjectives I would have used in this case, I was hoping we'd agree on just how... weird, the properties on this teleport are.
So you're saying... because it's "difficult" to do a special with reversal timing that it ... merits the teleport being how it is because the margin of error is wide enough on the shazam player...
Alright, relying on the opponent messing up an input to have a chance to punish the start up of the teleport and not having to preemptively Venom MB to punish...
there doesn't seem to be any problem with this picture to anybody??????
DD is all about getting knock downs and applying pressure to people... so a character going from having virtually no wake up to having an invincible wake up that lets them run away, that costs no meter mind you! and the only guaranteed counter is a properly timed preemptive meter burn tackle... (cause remember from the video, the preemptive meter burned venom was blocked a couple times, the timing isn't very easy!)
but this change hasn't effected the match.... that much.
