Cyborg General Discussion Thread

[Marlow]

Nobody is saying he needs it. Make the startup 18, lower the range, take away the wakeup invincibility. Or get rid of Cyborg's command grab entirely. Right now it's one of the most pointless moves in the game.

 

[Kekoa]

She has nuetral he doesn't. bottom line I could care less about her 5050 it's the fact they gave her a layer to her neutral. Lol nova blast in the nuetral.

Nova Blast in the neutral lol.

 

[just_2swift]

That was his neutral in igau but it was changed to a high because it was advantage full screen which caused an infinite.

 

[Cursa]

Imho it should just never be a mid command grab due to the tick throws he gets access to, stubby limbs or not. You're -3 and close to Cyborg you're now in tick throw range.

If you make it mid but reduce the distance/increase startup it doesn't solve anything but just gives him 50/50's for some reason.

Just make it a mid somehow that can either by MB'd to be safe or make it like -8 with some pushback. If they do that I'd be good with the startup being reduced or something of the like.

Also I think you can backdash F1 1+3 from Starfire which is tricky, and MB tackle is indeed +24 on hit in the frame data. But I'm assuming it's wrong somehow. It is also a semi-invincible wakeup but nobody even bothers trying to stuff it since both of his wakeups you just block low.

 

[K7L33THA]

I'd rather have OH target acquired than mid command grab. Could make for some interesting setups forcing them to block high sometimes.

 

[Kekoa]

Make F2 a hard knockdown...

 

[imblackjames]

I'd rather have OH target acquired than mid command grab. Could make for some interesting setups forcing them to block high sometimes.

He would be so broken if that were the case lol

 

[just_2swift]

He would be so broken if that were the case lol

He did have that in the first game and he was still a trash can

 

[imblackjames]

He did have that in the first game and he was still a trash can

Oh i know. But he was worse overall in inj1, he didnt have standard injustice combos in that game. He didnt have a launcher to do set ups with and he didnt have a trait that let him get them out for almost free.

 

[iAteUrLife]

Make F2 a hard knockdown...

I actually agree with this even more. When the opponent is hit airborne f2 it created a hkd. They would be forced to block the incoming TA and the blockstrings, building him meter and even some 5050 situations with trait (albiet little damage resulting)

Too bad on stream they said their not doing a patch this time smdh


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[pretty flocko]

I think all he needs at this point is slightly faster nb startup if not that he’s a pretty good character imo

 

[just_2swift]

Oh i know. But he was worse overall in inj1, he didnt have standard injustice combos in that game. He didnt have a launcher to do set ups with and he didnt have a trait that let him get them out for almost free.

Oh i know. But he was worse overall in inj1, he didnt have standard injustice combos in that game. He didnt have a launcher to do set ups with and he didnt have a trait that let him get them out for almost free.

Now in the corner he did he was basically a corner charater with no mid screen but corner? He could melt a life bar. Remember 113 was also a restand into overhead with a delayed b2 you could create some tough situations. So what he lacked mid screen he made up for it in the corner. But the one thing that hurt him most was the clash system. He would do all that work getting them to the corner and get all there health back and reset the neutral.

 

[just_2swift]

I think I found a way to do the reset mid screen but it's costly 3 bars... But I think it's worth 80% dmg

 

[Kekoa]

I think I found a way to do the reset mid screen but it's costly 3 bars... But I think it's worth 80% dmg

Video?!

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[iAteUrLife]

I think I found a way to do the reset mid screen but it's costly 3 bars... But I think it's worth 80% dmg

Is it practical or niche? The corner one i know is actually really practical and I've landed it almost everytime i get someone in the corner and they get tagged by the b231 and i have one/two bars


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[Kekoa]

I was labbing some pressure stuff and found this:

It seems like if trait and your string hit on the same frame it causes you to be negative. Is this some sort of game mechanic? The last few clips I recorded show that blocking high, superman is unable to punish. Blocking low however, I'm able to get up to a 16 frame punish. Can someone explain this to me lol.

 

[just_2swift]

Video?!

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[imblackjames]

Now in the corner he did he was basically a corner charater with no mid screen but corner? He could melt a life bar. Remember 113 was also a restand into overhead with a delayed b2 you could create some tough situations. So what he lacked mid screen he made up for it in the corner. But the one thing that hurt him most was the clash system. He would do all that work getting them to the corner and get all there health back and reset the neutral.

It was a restand IF they didn't tech roll or tech roll them wake up. Plus that's only 8% damage into a hard to click which mid screen would be like 38% making it 46% one bar this game mid screen he'd get a set up into a hard to block making it all at least 65%. That's a big damage difference if the missiles were overhead. I just think they'd be op especially if we can get this midscreen trait reset to work

 

[Kekoa]

I think I found a way to do the reset mid screen but it's costly 3 bars... But I think it's worth 80% dmg

My dude, I found a 1 bar 80% midscreen reset using a BGB. It's ridiculously easy to pull off, the only huge downside is that I think it may be stage specific and placing specific. @just_2swift

 

[iAteUrLife]

My dude, I found a 1 bar 80% midscreen reset using a BGB. It's ridiculously easy to pull off, the only huge downside is that I think it may be stage specific and placing specific. @just_2swift

Videeeoooo


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[just_2swift]

My dude, I found a 1 bar 80% midscreen reset using a BGB. It's ridiculously easy to pull off, the only huge downside is that I think it may be stage specific and placing specific. @just_2swift

Lemmeseeeeee

 

[Kekoa]

@iAteUrLife @just_2swift

 

[just_2swift]

Dayum son you been holding out what else you got in the vault. Im guilty myself I have other stuff too. Like f22 crossing up on wake up meat off a set up

 

[iAteUrLife]

@iAteUrLife @just_2swift

I think i came....... A lil [emoji23] so is it position specific? From the looks of it you obviously can't be too far to the edge of the range of a bgb since to get the reset you need 2 bgb's


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[Kekoa]

Dayum son you been holding out what else you got in the vault. Im guilty myself I have other stuff too. Like f22 crossing up on wake up meat off a set up

Lol it's not even like that. I just started working on this when you posted your vid about midscreen resets!