Not everyone knows everything or has the understanding you have about FGs and instead of talking down to people you could just explain the concept and help someone in the process. Getting angry when people don't understand is not the right way to go about it. Glad you noticed that tho. We're all here to help each other, not measure the length out of FG dicks.
Sonya'a B12/B14 has 1 frame difference.
I think we all understand she’s good, I never meant to talk down to you if you felt that way that’s my bad. I understand shit on the internet can come off wrong. We are all allowed to disagree. If everyone agreed with everything nothing would ever be discussed. We need discussion to help the game
because you can't just pick her up and do f4 all day, yes it's a great stagger but you don't autopilot win with her by just pressing and hiconfirming f4. like I said cassie benefits a lot from good fundamentals. people like foxy or st9rm are mopping everyone with her because she gives you all the options you need when you're a great player overall but if you're not and mindlessly doing low gunshots and f4 it won't work out against people who have a decent understanding of the game, with other top tiers you can do better without investing as much time as you need with her.
Youre the one who brought up 111. I dont think you know the difference between a read and a hard read. You may be right babout Geras, Ill double check, but I mostly take the low or react to stagger online. Bette to avoid kb. You lack general conversation skills and are making bad points. Please hold this L in silence, maintaining a mutual respect, I hate using this sites ignore function. NO one is complaining about making reads, goon. F4 stagger makes cassie have far too many options to consistently make the right read in a ft2 tournament setting. Thats the point, that its very strong. If you dont get that, take your game back to Gamestop. Theyll give you more than your opinion is worth at this point in time.
I see you mean Geras with 111 now. You can poke him when youre ducking, too. If you block, he conditioned you. Its a very different situation and you bringing it up AND glossing over my stated misunderstanding in my reply is juvenile bickering. We are talking about cassie. All things can be boiled down to read and reaction, the quantity and quality of tools to force reads and counter them and the inherent risk/reward of fighting games is the discussion.
What do you suggest to balance F4 just wondering.
Youre right and Im sorry. i just wish people would take it as advice rather than throw every argument they can muster atme. Even still, its probably my attitude. Ill work on it in the irl practice mode.
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Don’t know why you have to call me names or tell me to return my game, it’s not that serious. I’m just an old fart that enjoys fighting games. Why would I return my game over a discussion. Cassie can not just throw out F4 all match and win. They still have to be smart with it.
You would still have to make a dicision before hand. The 2 frames won’t make it any less strong. I would be fine with that. To me that’s not even a nerf worth talking about.
Fair point, but I do still think shes mindless. F4, gun, throw, b3 covers a whole lot. But maybe Id change my stance if everyone hasnt picked her up recently and started doing well with essentially just those things.
I actually changed to yaas queen a couple weeks ago, will probably never go back. It’s all about footsies and spacing. Also don’t have low gunshot as a crutch. Gotta make your way in, and stay at your range.
I feel you, in the beginning of the game there where literally no cassie players except a few but since sf and the twins said she's top tier she's way more used and I'm really annoyed by that as well. though I don't struggle as much against her anymore it's a pretty stressful matchup nevertheless.
I can not decide who is more stressful to play against.. Geras, Erron, Sonya, Cassie, Scorpion, Jaqui...
Someone who ALWAYS WINS with hidden select and random select COMBINED?I can not decide who is more stressful to play against.. Geras, Erron, Sonya, Cassie, Scorpion, Jaqui...
It would make a second f4 11f so you could beat that with a mid rather than just a poke, of course if your char has a ten frame mid. basically it would let you make people stop trying to play her mindlessly. Rn the only way to get actual damage when you make that read is a jab, and those often get stuffed due to hit/hurtboxes. Id go as far as making it -5, but -2 is enough for me to beat it With Kung Lao for my bnb into meaty.
I don't even bother going for someting else than d1 if I know that she'll stagger. at least you get your turn, it's better than nothing
That's a good point.
yes that's true but that's nothing excusivly to cassie that's just how staggers work. anyone with a good mid can do this.
Thank you my dude. This is what Im saying. f4 leads to so much, its a very hard read and most of the answers people have are 'just do this'. Most of the time you get your turn back, but I want damage for making that read, otherwise it should be accepted that shes tippy top tier.
But not everyone has a neutral staggerable mid. She has the best one is all Ive been saying. Walk back is literally the best option, and I know and effectively use that, but it doesnt feel honest that her mid is the fastest, best on block stagger and she has presence everywhere else. But its not broken, just very very good.
