Dark_Rob
Noob
It is. Its funny, your supposed to laugh.I really hope this is a troll x.x
It is. Its funny, your supposed to laugh.I really hope this is a troll x.x
Are you kidding? Cyrax is a combo character; he lives and dies by them. He needs one reset every round because he can't defend and his normals come out at 1mph. Cyrax would have his own garbage tier if he didn't have that 70-90% reset.I really hope this is a troll x.x
Gee, thanks for the good laugh. Ha, Ha, Ha........... Of course Cxrax can defend himself, ghetto low pokes into Ragdoll and throw "mixups".Hey even the good ol' 1,1 hit confirm 1,1 pressure is so mean and scary. Amazing tactics that can;t be seen coming, for sure.
LMAO! That is so true.i think you guys should actually learn to play cyrax....
what you said is no different from someone who plays sub-zero saying.. "ghetto low pokes into slides and throws. Hey even the good ol' 22 hit confirm. 22 pressure is so mean and scary. Amazing tactics that can't be seen coming, for sure."
1,1 is 9 frames and plus on block. d1 is 6 frames. 3,3 is 10 frames. 10 frame uppercut. yup, slow as all hell. he also has frame traps, bomb traps, safe jump loops, etc etc... what a shit character!!The fact that cyrax needs 70% to 90% comboes ISNT bullshit. You have to weigh in other factors, like the wakeup game, normals, speed etc, all of which cyrax sucks at.
I suppose I should buy your book to learn Cyrax then. And please elaborate his wakeup game and teach this scrub? As far as I know, his wakeup game is good IF you have meter to burn. Like Enhanced ragdoll and enhanced get the hell off me teleport.1,1 is 9 frames and plus on block. d1 is 6 frames. 3,3 is 10 frames. 10 frame uppercut. yup, slow as all hell. he also has frame traps, bomb traps, safe jump loops, etc etc... what a shit character!!
his wake up game? he has one of the better wake up games in MK9. you guys just REALLY dont know your character. you guys see his strong areas and say "nah, shit sucks"...
He has more bomb traps and a frame trap? Safe jump loops? And nobody knows how to utilize these for him!?1,1 is 9 frames and plus on block. d1 is 6 frames. 3,3 is 10 frames. 10 frame uppercut. yup, slow as all hell. he also has frame traps, bomb traps, safe jump loops, etc etc... what a shit character!!
his wake up game? he has one of the better wake up games in MK9. you guys just REALLY dont know your character. you guys see his string areas and say "nah, shit sucks"
Sounds like a plan. I'm dying to see his amazing wakeup game to keep rushdown characters from pummeling you with out having to burn meterSTBL tomorrow.. 1st thing i do will be to talk about cyrax.
But he would still be able to link a close bomb after a blocked unfinished string right? Like f2 xxbb4SOLUTION: heres my idea..
disable normal bomb 2in1 after normals but allow en bomb 2in1, so you can still link in en bomb for combos, but not normal bomb for resets. 21~net, jump punch~21~en bomb, NJ punch, b2, dash 33~rag doll does 43% with 1 bar and cyrax can still do 50 w/2 bars. naked net combos w/1 bar will do 38%. this way he still does good damage but not OMG WTF damage.
Tom says "he has one of the better wake up games in MK9". I don't see how that is possible, Maybe I'm missing something. From my experiences With Cyrax you need meter for wakeup. Regular teleport is highly punishable, regular ragdoll is highly punishable by a simple crossup, and anti air isn't reliable. All he has is enhanced teleport and enhanced ragdoll on wakeup.Hate to say it, but i have to agree with tom...i mean i can manufacture any sort of random combo in training with one bar or less and end up with 40% + combos, it's easy to get high damaging combos with him...all i hope is that when he does indeed get toned down, I just hope he doesn't turn out to be a complete piece of shit, which i truly don't believe will be the case.
He certainly is, All I am implying is that the insane damage he causes makes up for what he is severely lacking.but i'll happily admit hes one of the stronger characters damage wise.
you may have said in an earlier post, but what do you think he's lacking? hes not amazing in EVERY aspect sure but i wouldn't be able to say he's crap anywhere, his anti air is great on jump ins as you wake up, and his teleport i use on wake up if theyre gonna try to hit me the moment i get up, pretty much gets me out of anythingHe certainly is, All I am implying is that the insane damage he causes makes up for what he is severely lacking.
Both of you make valid points...lets see what he has to say tomorrowTom says "he has one of the better wake up games in MK9". I don't see how that is possible, Maybe I'm missing something. From my experiences With Cyrax you need meter for wakeup. Regular teleport is highly punishable, regular ragdoll is highly punishable by a simple crossup, and anti air isn't reliable. All he has is enhanced teleport and enhanced ragdoll on wakeup.
Tom also says "what you said is no different from someone who plays sub-zero saying.. "ghetto low pokes into slides and throws. Hey even the good ol' 22 hit confirm. 22 pressure is so mean and scary. Amazing tactics that can't be seen coming, for sure."
Maybe I'm missing something again but I don't see how you can compare Subs 2,2 string to Cyrax's 3,3 or 1,1 string. Subs string is even an anti-air for petes sake. And Subs ghetto pokes are far superior, you can pressure with that and cancel into ice clone!
I don't think Cyrax is a crap character at all, he is unique and has most of the right tools. He is however lacking in the wakeup and overall defense department. I am waiting for Tom to show us Cyrax's defense and amazing meterless wakeup game tomorrow, but until then, I hate to say it, but I disagree with Tom. We all have a right to opinions don't we? I may be a scrub and not be an expert like Tom, in fact, I don't think there can ever be another Tom, Ever, but I have played countless hours with Cyrax and I'm not seeing what Tom see's. Maybe I'm not clicking with the character who knows, I'll wait and see what Tom has to show tomorrow.
Cyrax can put out a lot of pressure with 1,1 and b.1 mixup. Try it instead of dismissing it, his d.4 is advantage on hit as well which lets you keep the 1,1 and command throw pressure. Hit confirming into net lets you have any combo you want. It may not be the best pressure in the game but it's certainly solid. As for defense, knowing your opponents attacks and when you're able to interrupt them is your best defence, a quick d.1 can work wonders interrupting attacks and lets you start with your pressure.Tom says "he has one of the better wake up games in MK9". I don't see how that is possible, Maybe I'm missing something. From my experiences With Cyrax you need meter for wakeup. Regular teleport is highly punishable, regular ragdoll is highly punishable by a simple crossup, and anti air isn't reliable. All he has is enhanced teleport and enhanced ragdoll on wakeup.
Tom also says "what you said is no different from someone who plays sub-zero saying.. "ghetto low pokes into slides and throws. Hey even the good ol' 22 hit confirm. 22 pressure is so mean and scary. Amazing tactics that can't be seen coming, for sure."
Maybe I'm missing something again but I don't see how you can compare Subs 2,2 string to Cyrax's 3,3 or 1,1 string. Subs string is even an anti-air for petes sake. And Subs ghetto pokes are far superior, you can pressure with that and cancel into ice clone!
I don't think Cyrax is a crap character at all, he is unique and has most of the right tools. He is however lacking in the wakeup and overall defense department. I am waiting for Tom to show us Cyrax's defense and amazing meterless wakeup game tomorrow, but until then, I hate to say it, but I disagree with Tom. We all have a right to opinions don't we? I may be a scrub and not be an expert like Tom, in fact, I don't think there can ever be another Tom, Ever, but I have played countless hours with Cyrax and I'm not seeing what Tom see's. Maybe I'm not clicking with the character who knows, I'll wait and see what Tom has to show tomorrow.
Cyrax is a fantastic character with or without 70% resets, i kick ass with 54% bnb. I would greatly appreciate it if you could elabourate on his frame traps and safe jump loops, i didnt know he had any!1,1 is 9 frames and plus on block. d1 is 6 frames. 3,3 is 10 frames. 10 frame uppercut. yup, slow as all hell. he also has frame traps, bomb traps, safe jump loops, etc etc... what a shit character!!
win on bullshit? you mean how characters get to juggle you 65 times by repeating the same 3 button presses?learn how to play cyrax right, then you can see just how ridiculous he is now and that if they could get him right he'd just be solid and not ridiculous. problem with that is that so many ppl that come into MK9 want to win more on bullshit then actually being good at the game so having a solid character isnt good enough for them.
Tomi think you guys should acpually learn to play cyrax....
learn how to play cyrax right, then you can see just how ridiculous he is now and that if they could get him right he'd just be solid and not ridiculous. problem with that is that so many ppl that come into MK9 want to win more on bullshit then actually being good at the game so having a solid character isnt good enough for them..