62% Reset 1 bar

[Mt. Mutombo]

im up to 80% with 1 bar and 93% with 3 bars!

Hurry up with that vid lol i wanna see if it's like the combo im cooking up!!!

 

[Sultani]

Oh my...

How many times can you repeat the first part (prior to the damage resetting)? As many times as you have meter bars? I'm not at home to test this, but what I'm wondering is if you can do this.

jp, 2, 1, net.. jp, 2, 1, ex bomb, mid bomb, 3, 3, net, njp, b2, dash, 3, 3, net, ex bomb, mid bomb, 3, 3, net.. you get the idea.

What I'm wondering is if after the first damage reset, when you do the njp, b2, dash, 3, 3, net... can you get off another reset by doing ex bomb mid bomb 3, 3, net? does the ex bomb knock them high enough in the air to get that off?

If so, it would seem that you can reset the damge by doing the first part of the combo 3 times with a full meter.

 

[TONY-T]

Oh my...

How many times can you repeat the first part (prior to the damage resetting)? As many times as you have meter bars? I'm not at home to test this, but what I'm wondering is if you can do this.

jp, 2, 1, net.. jp, 2, 1, ex bomb, mid bomb, 3, 3, net, njp, b2, dash, 3, 3, net, ex bomb, mid bomb, 3, 3, net.. you get the idea.

What I'm wondering is if after the first damage reset, when you do the njp, b2, dash, 3, 3, net... can you get off another reset by doing ex bomb mid bomb 3, 3, net? does the ex bomb knock them high enough in the air to get that off?

If so, it would seem that you can reset the damge by doing the first part of the combo 3 times with a full meter.

pretty sure you cant throw another bomb in a combo once a bomb has already exploded. would be nice though, but it would lead to an infinite.

 

[Sultani]

pretty sure you cant throw another bomb in a combo once a bomb has already exploded. would be nice though, but it would lead to an infinite.

ah... right right...

The net breaking is what ends the combo, and the bomb being the first hit after the reset would mean that when you tried to ex bomb mid bomb, that the mid bomb wouldn't come out.

Without doing something similar, I am really confused as to how this 93% stuff is possible. I'm assuming it's multiple resets. More messing with this later tonight.

 

[Mt. Mutombo]

Oh and btw you can get up to 65% if after the EX bomb you just do 3~net instead of 33~net...

 

[FatalTragedy]

Off the standard 35% reset starter I went in for a NJP, b+2 dash in, 3 3 net, deep jump kick 2 ragdoll-throw and if I'm not mistaken that ended the combo at 67%. I started trying out that reset business today and I gotta say, it's nifty.

Too fucking hard to get both 3, 3, easy to leave off a 3 and get 66%. Or maybe I'm shitty. Probably that. This stuff easier on a stick?

 

[Sultani]

I've found that the chest saw reset rather than the net is more damage pre reset, and it's not as strict with where you're positioned when you toss the mid bomb. Sometimes it seems like when I use the net reset, the damage doesn't reset every time and the njp just slams them into the floor. It looks like this happens if you don't move far enough forward right before you throw the bomb. This never happens with the chest saw reset. And yea, it's 67% with one meter.

Most I've gotten with three meters is 78%. I'd like to see Tony's vid, or what people are doing to get even more.

Wonder how much it does if you morph with shang tsung and then do it... or if you even have time.

 

[Christy]

After the EX bomb try to move cyrax as forward as possible before the midbomb...let me see how can i explain... after the EX bomb instead of doing ff3 for the mid bomb try to do fff3 while in the EX bomb animation...kind of a vague explanation but let me know if it works

Thanks for the advice dude, but i guess i just suck. Ill try doing just 3, net, cuase i heard that works too

 

[Sultani]

Do the chestsaw instead. It doesn't have that same problem and it's more damage.

 

[Tom Brady]

this is the standard BnB that i use.

i have combos over 80% and higher but #1. i dont consider the combos into the 80's BnB and #2. they are soon to be going bye bye...

 

[Ironsoulsmasher]

this is the standard BnB that i use.

i have combos over 80% and higher but #1. i dont consider the combos into the 80's BnB and #2. they are soon to be going bye bye...

O.O that was some good sh1t! :banana:

Kinda saw the patch for this comin though. dammit lol.

 

[Gankula]

Whoops sorry Ironsoul think I sent you a IM by mistake, err.
Tom, I'm curious on the fix you're talking about. Will it be something like bomb immunity from combo ending knockdowns? I can't really imagine how else they're going to fix this reset. If so, how will it work on the net, which doesn't knock then down, just traps them in a recovery animation?

 

[FatalTragedy]

It'd be a bummer if he lost that reset. I just found out about it. Sad panda.

 

[Mt. Mutombo]

this is the standard BnB that i use.

i have combos over 80% and higher but #1. i dont consider the combos into the 80's BnB and #2. they are soon to be going bye bye...

getting patched really? shit!!! this is my ace in the hole my go to combo when im in trouble... stop it with the nerfs delete the damn character if they're continually going to patch him...

 

[Tom Brady]

getting patched really? shit!!! this is my ace in the hole my go to combo when im in trouble... stop it with the nerfs delete the damn character if they're continually going to patch him...

stop with the nerfs? Cyrax does 57% with 1 bar and no reset. do you honestly think that having 70%-90% combos is something for one to say "stop with the nerfs" about? i have heard nothing on a nerf for this yet, its just something i assume will come eventually because its ridiculous.

no one should ever see this and say "stop with the nerfs".. damn, now you will have to SETTLE for only 57% with 1 bar, ohh how cyrax will be so bad then...

 

[Mt. Mutombo]

It's not that im pissed because of the nerfs, the thing that really grinds my gears is them not getting it right, it sucks having to continually have to re-adjust your game. I agree with you in a way, 70%+ damage with one bar is ridiculous, but the fact that i've seen more people fail to do the combo than actually landing it makes me think the opposite.

 

[FatalTragedy]

It's not that im pissed because of the nerfs, the thing that really grinds my gears is them not getting it right, it sucks having to continually have to re-adjust your game. I agree with you in a way, 70%+ damage with one bar is ridiculous, but the fact that i've seen more people fail to do the combo than actually landing it makes me think the opposite.

I failed the combo a few times tonight online but against opponents where connection wasn't pristine, otherwise didn't drop it once. Online sucks with this game. Bad. They spent enough time on this game. The patches and the netcode are killing me. Johnny Cage is still good. Him and Reptile were my mains. I think the damage scaling on Reptile was justifiable and I think that even cage *gasp* could use a bit of damage scaling. But come on, this should have been figured out from the get-go.

 

[Tom Brady]

It's not that im pissed because of the nerfs, the thing that really grinds my gears is them not getting it right, it sucks having to continually have to re-adjust your game. I agree with you in a way, 70%+ damage with one bar is ridiculous, but the fact that i've seen more people fail to do the combo than actually landing it makes me think the opposite.

i agree 100% on having to re-adjust, i'm all for them getting it right the first time lol rather the 4th.

as far as ppl missing it, maybe thats just online. offline this is my staple BnB and i find it pretty reliable.

 

[GodsLonelyman]

First they take away his bomb "trap", they make his command grab extremely easy to tech, and now they should nerf him again? WTF? That reset can easily be avoided if the person has meter/breaker. And lets be realistic here, if you play against a solid player, landing that combo won't be too easy. It's not like his rushdown game is any good or his nets are god like. He has some very weak defense and can't deal with pressure to well. Cyrax has extreme damage but it makes up for his weak ass wakeup and defense game, to have a chance at wakeup you NEED meter. I honestly wouldn't touch Cyrax again if they nerf him. He has enough issues already like empty nets and bombs draining meter. Like someone else said, they may as well wipe the character from the roster.

 

[Tom Brady]

probably the only real while i was think on a real fix here were teh problems:

PROBLEM: even if you disable the cest saw in combos, net will still allow the reset. cant disable nets when bombs are out because then you lose all net bomb traps in the neutral game.

cant disable re-nets in combos because it still wont fix the problem. even if you dont allow re-nets, ppl will just start with 21~en bomb and save the net for the reset and still do 80%. you could disable net after a few hits but that just kills other combo opportunities.


SOLUTION: heres my idea..
disable normal bomb 2in1 after normals but allow en bomb 2in1, so you can still link in en bomb for combos, but not normal bomb for resets. 21~net, jump punch~21~en bomb, NJ punch, b2, dash 33~rag doll does 43% with 1 bar and cyrax can still do 50 w/2 bars. naked net combos w/1 bar will do 38%. this way he still does good damage but not OMG WTF damage.

he would still be able to do his 21~net, jump punch~21~en bomb, medium bomb, uppercut onto medium bomb, dash b2, 33~rag doll 54% combo because the medium bomb wasnt a 2in1 link off of a normal and this combo does 54%. even you just disable normal bomb in gereral during combos but allow en bomb, this keeps him in the 30s w/no meter and in the 40s-60 w/1 to 3 bars.

either way disabling normal bombs but allowing en bombs off of normals or just disabling normal bomb during combo in general is the only real fix.

**NOTE**
PLEASE dont post and bullshit me by saying "cyrax needs 70%-90% or he cant win". dont ever.. EVER tell me a character cant win with 40-50% combos, no no... they NEED 70%+.. thats what they need.. uhh NOT!

 

[salvificblood]

First they take away his bomb "trap", they make his command grab extremely easy to tech, and now they should nerf him again? WTF? That reset can easily be avoided if the person has meter/breaker. And lets be realistic here, if you play against a solid player, landing that combo won't be too easy. It's not like his rushdown game is any good or his nets are god like. He has some very weak defense and can't deal with pressure to well. Cyrax has extreme damage but it makes up for his weak ass wakeup and defense game, to have a chance at wakeup you NEED meter. I honestly wouldn't touch Cyrax again if they nerf him. He has enough issues already like empty nets and bombs draining meter. Like someone else said, they may as well wipe the character from the roster.

Yes. This is exactly how I feel. Cyrax will be terrible if he can no longer have 70+% combos for 1 bar of meter. I mean, people build enough meter to breaker during the actual combo. I propose they build meter more slowly during Cyrax's combo so that they can't use a breaker to get out just to make up for his terrible zoning and rushdown.

 

[younghou]

terrible mindset finally we get pached every time for us effort.
the worst is you can't fix cyrax without make him really simple

if you patch cyrax stuff give him something like some armor move , or make him more faster to compensate the lost.
put complexity to the game this make a game good. not the simplistic noob friendly patch

 

[Dark_Rob]

Yes. This is exactly how I feel. Cyrax will be terrible if he can no longer have 70+% combos for 1 bar of meter. I mean, people build enough meter to breaker during the actual combo. I propose they build meter more slowly during Cyrax's combo so that they can't use a breaker to get out just to make up for his terrible zoning and rushdown.

LMAO. Have you been taking posting lessons from REO?

 

[salvificblood]

LMAO. Have you been taking posting lessons from REO?

REO agrees with me? Lol.

 

[nyght87]

Yes. This is exactly how I feel. Cyrax will be terrible if he can no longer have 70+% combos for 1 bar of meter. I mean, people build enough meter to breaker during the actual combo. I propose they build meter more slowly during Cyrax's combo so that they can't use a breaker to get out just to make up for his terrible zoning and rushdown.

I really hope this is a troll x.x