Black Adam General Discussion Thread

[Vulcan Hades]

I already received more Injustice hatemail in 1 day than I ever did with SFxT, AE and MK9 combined LOL.

 

[Rodney Quillz]

I already received more Injustice hatemail in 1 day than I ever did with SFxT, AE and MK9 combined LOL.

I sent you gg for our mirror and never got a response

 

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I have returned

 

[Smarrgasm]

Anybody having trouble with his standing 2? Its a 10 frame mid but i can never get it to work when im on plus frames. Like on hit d1 i try to follow up with it and im not getting it to hit/ getting poked out/etc. I guess i should start following up with b1 or something. His 22 is mad messed up. It should be such a great set of normals.

 

[Vocket]

Anybody having trouble with his standing 2? Its a 10 frame mid but i can never get it to work when im on plus frames. Like on hit d1 i try to follow up with it and im not getting it to hit/ getting poked out/etc. I guess i should start following up with b1 or something. His 22 is mad messed up. It should be such a great set of normals.

When I play against aquaman i get very mad at his 22 compared to my 22. Adam just does not have good range on his normals. his b23 seems to be the best string. For now I would try more b1 (knee) but it still has somewhat lackluster range.

 

[Vulcan Hades]

I sent you gg for our mirror and never got a response

But I did reply earlier today lol. I missed it because I have notifications off.

 

[Vulcan Hades]

Anybody having trouble with his standing 2? Its a 10 frame mid but i can never get it to work when im on plus frames. Like on hit d1 i try to follow up with it and im not getting it to hit/ getting poked out/etc. I guess i should start following up with b1 or something. His 22 is mad messed up. It should be such a great set of normals.

I agree, his 2,2 string definitely needs a hitbox improvement. It misses way too often. It's unreliable to the point of being practically useless. If you block Deathstroke's Sword Flip, you can technically punish with 2,2 but only the first hit connects (and sometimes even the first hit whiffs). So if you buffered black magic you're dead. So for punishing I've starting using b1 xx black magic exclusively.

2 is still ok as AA though. Still trades a lot and you need almost perfect spacing but it's good and better than d2.

 

[McTease]

More and more I play I feel like Black Adam's game-plan is revolved around putting shit on screen and getting your opponent to come to you and punish accordingly.

Honestly, outside of cross-up j.2 there really isn't much to open up with. I feel if 1 had a bigger hitbox, Adam would be straight but wouldn't be ridiculous.

 

[Vulcan Hades]

A lot of people say Black Adam is half rushdown and half zoner. And while that's true that's not even what he excels at.

Black Adam is a whiff punisher first and foremost.

 

[McTease]

Exactly my point. I don't think he really does well in zoning or rushdown hence why I think he's able to do so much damage off of one hit. Compared to the rest of the cast anyway, obviously except for the grapplers.

And good to see you in these forums. You've single-handedly made SFxT interesting to me.

 

[Vulcan Hades]

Ok, Black Adam is amazing. Really better than I originally thought. After watching the Civil War finals between Tom Brady and REO I kept thinking: "Isn't Black Adam basically a watered down version of Batman? Why even play Black Adam when Batman has better zoning and better rushdown?". I was kinda feeling down after this realization. Then I hit the lab trying to come up with some new things and I discovered something by accident. Actually, not just one thing. A bunch of little things that changed my mind about this character.

It's really simple stuff too. Not some crazy unblockable tech or anything like that. Just some obvious things I realized he could do that will make Black Adam tourney viable in the long run imo.

I'm working on some vids to show the potential.

 

[smokey]

Ok, Black Adam is amazing. Really better than I originally thought. After watching the Civil War finals between Tom Brady and REO I kept thinking: "Isn't Black Adam basically a watered down version of Batman? Why even play Black Adam when Batman has better zoning and better rushdown?". I was kinda feeling down after this realization. Then I hit the lab trying to come up with some new things and I discovered something by accident. Actually, not just one thing. A bunch of little things that changed my mind about this character.

It's really simple stuff too. Not some crazy unblockable tech or anything like that. Just some obvious things I realized he could do that will make Black Adam tourney viable in the long run imo.

I'm working on some vids to show the potential.

Good to see you playing Black Adam Hades! Been a while since i played SFxT but your Juri was mad good!

Any hints at what you might be videoing, i have a load of stuff i want to go over but have no way of capturing, so hopefully were on the same page somewhere

 

[VOR]

I've gotten into a few characters and now Black Adam. What I can say is that he's a solid footsies character. He has tools that will at least keep an opponent hesitant and i love his movement first and foremost. Will benefit fundamentally solid, smart players with good reactions and matchup knowledge, i feel.

 

[Briggs8417]

I got a cross up super in the corner somehow yesterday it was crazy. I have no idea how I did it, but it happened.

 

[G4S Killin Natzees]

Good to see you playing Black Adam Hades! Been a while since i played SFxT but your Juri was mad good!

Any hints at what you might be videoing, i have a load of stuff i want to go over but have no way of capturing, so hopefully were on the same page somewhere

I have a card, you can let me know what and I can record and post it for you haha

 

[Briggs8417]

Ok, Black Adam is amazing. Really better than I originally thought. After watching the Civil War finals between Tom Brady and REO I kept thinking: "Isn't Black Adam basically a watered down version of Batman? Why even play Black Adam when Batman has better zoning and better rushdown?". I was kinda feeling down after this realization. Then I hit the lab trying to come up with some new things and I discovered something by accident. Actually, not just one thing. A bunch of little things that changed my mind about this character.

It's really simple stuff too. Not some crazy unblockable tech or anything like that. Just some obvious things I realized he could do that will make Black Adam tourney viable in the long run imo.

I'm working on some vids to show the potential.

I completely agree with you this character will absolutely be viable for a long time, I personally think right now from all the characters in the game that I have seen and how they play that Black Adam is in the upper echelon of characters in the game. He has all the tools he could possibly need to excel. Tbh though, I can't say I have seen a character that doesn't.

 

[DeadlyCreampuff]

So something peculiar I encountered today playing vs a mates Grundy. I would sometimes try to get him low with EX lightning strike while he was close to me or on a wakeup nearby and on a few occasions he would do the armoured grab. While it catches a single lightning strike just fine the grab would just not connect on Adam.

We tried if it was vs all grabs, but his Super and EX trait don't care about EX lightning and just demolish it. I also had a look with some other characters to see if Grundy just can't grab anymore if all 3 hits were used up, but while Grundy would get hit by any 4th hit normally, anything just doing 3 hits would still get caught.

Curious if anyone has encountered something like it? Grundy already had trouble dealing with me pressuring him on wakeup with lightning from far away.

Also just shoutouts to ex lightning strike in general for trading with Green Arrows super having only that first explosion hit :3

 

[LeonTrotsky]

Hey guys, new to the TYM forums. Just got the game a few days ago and so far I'm really diggin Black Adam. That said, I thought that his orbs gave 4% unblockable damage? I'm seeing that they are only doing 1.5% when blocked. Was this something they changed last minute?

 

[Vulcan Hades]

omg I didn't noticed that. Is it a stealth nerf or was it always like that?

That's kinda lame. I thought orbs always did 4% since they're unblockable.

 

[Rude]

Scrubby question: I am having some difficulty executing Black adam's B23+U1 and B23+U2 strings. Is there a timing difference between the first part and the second? Dialing doesn't seem to work.

 

[Vulcan Hades]

It's not up+1, it's up, then 1.

A better combo is b2,3, 1,1 xx black magic, dash, b2,3, u, whatever ender. Timing can be strict for that one but apparently you can mash in this game and still get links.

FYI 1+3 ender does the most damage and leaves in best footsie positioning. The 1 ender creates more distance to zone/protect the life lead. Those are basically the only two good enders imo.

I've tried really hard to find a purpose for the 2 ender but it's just bad. Black Adam seems to be in negative frames after landing that which is incredibly stupid (the built in frame data says you're supposed to be at +11 but I doubt that's accurate). This looks like a perfect knockdown for an oki opportunity, but it's not even a hard knockdown and you recover way too slow to even do anything on opponent's wake up so what's the point. Looking vulnerable maybe.

 

[PsychoShot]

What's everybody doing after a JI2? I always try to do 112 but the first hit always whiffs because they're holding crouch block.

 

[Mindslug]

What's everybody doing after a JI2? I always try to do 112 but the first hit always whiffs because they're holding crouch block.

Well, if you manage to get a cross-up with your J2, 112 will naturally combo whatever the opponent might be inputing. as for myself I use j2 , 112 x Black Magic, forward dash, b2,3,1+3. (mainly because it's really easy and I had not enough time to practice something harder/stronger)

if my trait is available I go for j2,11 xx Orb of Seth(trait) b2,3, 11xxLightning Storm(37%/42% with ex LS)

Speaking of b2,3 then 11, I find the timing pretty tricky do somebody has a tip on how to land it in a more reliable way or knows if it's character specific ? I tried to delay 3 a bit but unsure if it actually does anything.

 

[Vulcan Hades]

I can confirm b32, u2 is negative frames. Actually more than negative, it's PUNISHABLE ON HIT:

lol I hope they change that. I really like how u2 knocks them closer than 1+3 but it's a shame we can't even take advantage of that knockdown for oki.

 

[Briggs8417]

Man I was running through Adam's strings last night and he has a hell of a lot more that's positive on block than I remember. I need to start using this to my advantage.