Command Grab - Bomb Trap PATCH?

[Eight]

I rarely use the bomb trap and im ranked 64 with over 600 wins and and under 200 loses.

These are my two combo variations:

fk fk Net, sticky bomb, medium bomb, uppercut, *opponent bounces off bomb* uppercut

fk fk Net, sticky bomb, medium bomb, uppercut, *opponent bounces off bomb* back+bp, fp bp fp

or once my net lands anywhere on the screen i'll go right into the sticky bomb, etc.

We Cyrax players should be able to get a decently damaging combo without the use of meter. The bomb trap was that combo.

 

[REYTHEGREAT]

Cyrax can still be scary without his bomb trap. I don't even use the bomb trap and I can still pull off 55-57% combos with him. Using one bar.

 

[Juggs]

Cyrax can still be scary without his bomb trap. I don't even use the bomb trap and I can still pull off 55-57% combos with him. Using one bar.

That's his BnB, the 57% one meter combo. The bomb trap isn't about the damage though.

 

[FatalTragedy]

I played a Cyrax tonight who kept using this bomb trap. I didn't know what was going on. I'm not a Cyrax player so I had no idea if it was a standard grab, I just know I couldn't reverse it and I couldn't move afterwards. I was getting pissed.

 

[Jade101]

i think he will still be good if they dont fuck him up

 

[FatalTragedy]

I decided to try out some of the combos today. Never really used Cyrax until today but I see you can't do a neutral JP after the bomb trap anymore? That new?

 

[nubi]

your timing must be off n.jp works after the bomb i was doing it just a few min ago lol

 

[FatalTragedy]

your timing must be off n.jp works after the bomb i was doing it just a few min ago lol

When I hit the NJP after the bomb it knocks them straight to the floor.

 

[PoliceBrutality]

Cyrax can still be scary without his bomb trap. I don't even use the bomb trap and I can still pull off 55-57% combos with him. Using one bar.

now that's just plain wrong lol. and to think that they nerfed my 47% stryker combo using two bars smh

 

[johnwayne]

Sigh again.

 

[UsedForGlue]

Grab should have larger frames.
Bomb Trap should stay.
Damage afterward a bomb hit should be scaled.

END OF.

 

[HappyMeltedCity]

Anybody saying Cyrax sucks without the bomb trap needs to look into him some more... I almost never use the bomb trap and I do just fine.

 

[Sultani]

When I hit the NJP after the bomb it knocks them straight to the floor.

This happens if your opponent jumps while you're doing the BP BP. Timing is just a little off. You need to catch them blocking or hit them with the BP BP without jumping when the bomb goes off.

Cyrax doesn't suck without the bomb trap. He is still awesome at zoning, but unfortunately "balanced" and "interesting" aren't synonyms. BP, FP net, BP, FP, ragdoll is not fun.

Oh well, I can play 14 different characters just fine now, so it's not as huge of a loss to me anymore. Which is not to say I don't think the bomb trap needs any further fixing than increased tech frames.. After learning 47%ish combos with other payers though that were much... MUCH easier to do than the bomb trap, I started to think that anyone complaining about it being cheap probably just sucks at the game.

And rank doesn't mean anything. I've beaten every single player I've played that was in the top 10, and they were no better than the people I've played that were rankedl ike 1400th.

 

[FatalTragedy]

I was practicing on a dead CPU opponent. I don't know why it knocks them into splat frames. I end up leaving the NJ out. Maybe I was seeing things, I'll try again.

 

[A Yellow Robot]

Anybody saying Cyrax sucks without the bomb trap needs to look into him some more... I almost never use the bomb trap and I do just fine.

SAME HERE MAN.

 

[nubi]

just fine vs who, random online scrubs or people who know how to play the game?

 

[HappyMeltedCity]

It doesn't matter who you're fighting - it doesn't stop Cyrax being a formidable foe. If you're struggling without the bug then you're just not a good player straight up.

 

[PoliceBrutality]

It doesn't matter who you're fighting - it doesn't stop Cyrax being a formidable foe. If you're struggling without the bug then you're just not a good player straight up.

I dont main cyrax but i totally agree with this ;-)

 

[cgerrr]

I was practicing on a dead CPU opponent. I don't know why it knocks them into splat frames. I end up leaving the NJ out. Maybe I was seeing things, I'll try again.

Maybe you're doing instead of after CG?

 

[nubi]

It doesn't matter who you're fighting - it doesn't stop Cyrax being a formidable foe. If you're struggling without the bug then you're just not a good player straight up.

If you think the bomb trap is a glitch or bug then you have absolutely no idea what your talking about at all, there is a separate bug involving ground net and whiffed attack that causes a damage scaling reset this has NOTHING to do with the bomb trap, furthermore I'm willing to bet that the only people you have played is randoms online, and if you think that is any indication of character balance then your insane

 

[Jade101]

i think everyone who main him will still me great just not cheap

 

[John Grizzly]

"Hey yo, it's just anotha....bomb trap!"

 

[TONY-T]

so can someone confirm just what part of the bomb trap is getting nerfed? is it the tech frames of the command throw or is it the opponents recovery frames after the command throw?

also ive found a 69% combo from the bomb trap that uses no meter and a 83% one that uses his xray! bomb trap rocks!

 

[FatalTragedy]

That might be the problem. Go me, haha. I'll give it a try. NJ disabled after four hits then?

I don't know how I didn't figure that out. Haha, worked nicely. Also after the bomb and NJ I do 2 1xx 2 2 qcf3 throw for 37%. I'll have to read around for some better followup options but that seems to deal more damage than the 1 2 qcf3 throw.

 

[DarthArma]

so can someone confirm just what part of the bomb trap is getting nerfed? is it the tech frames of the command throw or is it the opponents recovery frames after the command throw?

also ive found a 69% combo from the bomb trap that uses no meter and a 83% one that uses his xray! bomb trap rocks!

do share lol