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Zoom operates outside of time and can do whatever the fuck he wants. He also pretty much has all of Wally's powers.im interested in knowing how Zoom could beat supes
Zoom operates outside of time and can do whatever the fuck he wants. He also pretty much has all of Wally's powers.im interested in knowing how Zoom could beat supes
they waited for GL so its possible J'onn is in itI really don't know why they wouldn't include Martian Manhunter in the beginning.
Are his shape-shifting abilities to hard to pull off? Do they need more time and we'll get some MM data on the disc and the full version later on as DLC ?_?
I agree on the no PG thing. Really no need for Superman with boobs.
so he can defy all kinds of laws of space and time? how the hell does Flash beat him?Zoom operates outside of time and can do whatever the fuck he wants. He also pretty much has all of Wally's powers.
I think Power Girl's exclusion is also why that image of the dead Supergirl is also on the site, because those two are essentially the same character. There's very little difference between Power Girl/Supergirl and Superman other than stats and gender. Batgirl could have a very different moveset despite being gadget oriented, so she at least had potential, but when Boon made that poll, everyone wanted Power Girl. I think she's a shoe-in for DLC later on, and I think that's a shame. I really, really think the only reason people voted for Power Girl is because of her boob-window costume.I agree on the no PG thing. Really no need for Superman with boobs.
Takes the speed from pretty much every Speedster he knows just to keep up with him, they duke it out for a bit then Wally shoves him into a rip in space/time and it forces Zoom to relive his wife dying or something forever. Haven't read it in a few years so I can't remember to well.so he can defy all kinds of laws of space and time? how the hell does Flash beat him?
I am never going to understand this argument. How can you say PG and Supergirl are similar to Supes and then go on to say that Batgirl isn't the same as Batman?There's very little difference between Power Girl/Supergirl and Superman other than stats and gender. Batgirl could have a very different moveset despite being gadget oriented, so she at least had potential
ah i think i remember the reliving his wife dying part. nicely done WallyTakes the speed from pretty much every Speedster he knows just to keep up with him, they duke it out for a bit then Wally shoves him into a rip in space/time and it forces Zoom to relive his wife dying or something forever. Haven't read it in a few years so I can't remember to well.
It kinda really confuses me, when it comes to you.Cap can keep up with Flash with the Speed of Mercury. With the power-up thing, the one time J'onn had his fire weakness overcome he turned into a flaming martian that pretty much had the entire world under his telepathic suggestions and would've killed the League and made more flaming babies if it wasn't for Plastic Man.
Simply by being Zoom...im interested in knowing how Zoom could beat supes
Yea, he's definitely faster than pretty much everyone (even in the Marvel Universe he is) but he isn't like that 24/7 in his fights. He has to pace himself or he'll blow all his energy out in seconds. It's why he doesn't go straight into fights gung-ho on Speed-Force throwing out infinite mass punches all over saying Flash Fact: Deal with it.The only comic book characters I would bring up who could compete with the Flash speed wise would be two from the Marvel comics: Silver Surfer, but also only in a straight line and the Runner, who is basically Marvels Flash and hell, maybe even a lot more.
As for some of these pictures, they are a bit out of context. Anyone with Super-speed could outrun heat vision since it's just light. The "Those were for charity Clark" bit is when he's overcharged with Speed-Force shit that's fixing to kill him (not to mention some fanwank by our friend Geoff Johns). The last one was Adam letting Jay steal his speed to get enough in order to hit light speed to punch some dude in the face, they weren't really racing.Other than that:
Flash outspeeds Superman's heat vision:
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Flash outspeeds Superman and mocks him:
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Jay Garrick (an old Flash) outspeeds Black Adam:
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Well, that's the usual comic book stupidity, just the way Flash moves 13 trillion times faster than the speed of light, which overshadows EVERYTHING Superman has EVER done.As for some of these pictures, they are a bit out of context. Anyone with Super-speed could outrun heat vision since it's just light
Speed is speed.The "Those were for charity Clark" bit is when he's overcharged with Speed-Force shit that's fixing to kill him (not to mention some fanwank by our friend Geoff Johns)
Oh, I posted the wrong scan.The last one was Adam letting Jay steal his speed to get enough in order to hit light speed to punch some dude in the face, they weren't really racing.
Because Batgirl(and I'm going off the Barbara Gordon Batgirl here) has different training than Batman. Batman is more of a heavy hitter, Batgirl, through virtue of being a lighter build, is a bit faster, more agile, and very athletic. Supergirl/Power Girl have, from what I understand, no powers that Superman doesn't.I am never going to understand this argument. How can you say PG and Supergirl are similar to Supes and then go on to say that Batgirl isn't the same as Batman?
Well, technically he can fly in space. It's a classic case of "Speed Force, ain't gotta explain shit" but it is possible.Being fast doesn't mean anything. Flash can't fly. Flash can't breath in space. Flash can't beat something he cannot touch or something that would hurt him on hit. One punch from someone like Superman - and he is dead. Seriously, Flash fanboys are more retarded than Storm fanboys.
Replace Batman with Superman and Batgirl with Supergirl and it wouldn't change a thing.Batman is more of a heavy hitter, Batgirl, through virtue of being a lighter build, is a bit faster, more agile, and very athletic.
ah i think i remember the reliving his wife dying part. nicely done Wally
No, Zoom was reliving a moment where he said to his wife "He won't have a gun, trust me Ashley" over and over again. Him, his wife, and his Father-in-law, are about to go in a house where a serial killer clown is in. Hunter (Zoom) is a "Rogue Profiler" he said that the clown won't have a gun. So the Three of them barge in and it turns he has a gun and shoots his father-in-law in the face, then shoots Hunter in the Knee (causing him to limp). The wife shoots the clown, and blames Hunter for her father's death and divorces him.Takes the speed from pretty much every Speedster he knows just to keep up with him, they duke it out for a bit then Wally shoves him into a rip in space/time and it forces Zoom to relive his wife dying or something forever. Haven't read it in a few years so I can't remember to well.
GTFO with your animated show knowledge.Being fast doesn't mean anything. Flash can't fly. Flash can't breath in space. Flash can't beat something he cannot touch or something that would hurt him on hit. One punch from someone like Superman - and he is dead. Seriously, Flash fanboys are more retarded than Storm fanboys.
Well, well, well, another Flash fanboy got his feelings hurt by the truth. Now get outside and build a shrine to Flash and pray Speed Force to save him from countless of characters who can own him in so many different ways.GTFO with your animated show knowledge.
It's not a bad thing not knowing anything about comics, but being someone who wants to give his opinion on stuff he doesn't know shit about is ... retarded.
Flash is so fast that Superman wouldn't be able to tag him and one punch from the Flash hurts more than one punch from Superman.
I can agree on the fact that Storm fans are retarded.Being fast doesn't mean anything. Flash can't fly. Flash can't breath in space. Flash can't beat something he cannot touch or something that would hurt him on hit. One punch from someone like Superman - and he is dead. Seriously, Flash fanboys are more retarded than Storm fanboys.
Well, well, well, another Flash fanboy got his feelings hurt by the truth. Now get outside and build a shrine to Flash and pray Speed Force to save him from countless of characters who can own him in so many different ways.
While it's true that quite a few people could easily do away with him, that doesn't make him any less of a good character. Power Level debates always end in nonsensical rambling so lets just avoid that for now.Well, well, well, another Flash fanboy got his feelings hurt by the truth. Now get outside and build a shrine to Flash and pray Speed Force to save him from countless of characters who can own him in so many different ways.
Flash could punch as hard as Superman. That doesn't mean EVERY Flash punch is as hard.Flash is so fast that Superman wouldn't be able to tag him and one punch from the Flash hurts more than one punch from Superman.
If Flash fights to win, he wins - sooner than anyone else. That's the main point.Flash could punch as hard as Superman. That doesn't mean EVERY Flash punch is as hard.
Lol right! I just laughed at his post.GTFO with your animated show knowledge.
It's not a bad thing not knowing anything about comics, but being someone who wants to give his opinion on stuff he doesn't know shit about is ... retarded.
Flash is so fast that Superman wouldn't be able to tag him and one punch from the Flash hurts more than one punch from Superman.