Matador Fiend
Kombatant
Having an armored launcher that goes into a reset, travels a third if the screen and is safe on block is fuckin stupid considering her other tools. I agree w cage mu, he takes chances when hes in his comfort zone
Sub Zero has a good counter D4 because it has nearly as much range and it's 4 frames faster. The only issue is (and this is a problem all characters have to worry about) the threat of the EX cartwheel blowing though Sub's D4 or ice clone or anything for that matter. It then allows Sonya to bully and effectively rush down a character that normally cannot be touched at close distance. However it can be baited and punished as well so it's all about reads.I feel like sub vs sonya is worse then 6-4. Only because sub gets shit damage midscreen, and the instant he tries to clone midscreen you're gonna eat an EX cartwheel that leads to like 40%+ damage into a reset. What can sub do except bait ring-toss so he can slide under it? lol.
oh it is, i'll get back to you bro.sonya/csz is 7-3 at worst not 8-2 lol
man curbo pls, kabal sonya is 4 6. Her pressure wrecks him and he must respect her armor/divekick. Once he hits the corner, it's bad news for kabal, and crossups can be punished by armor cartwheel. freddy yeah we need to see that more, and i feel that it is def at worst 6 4, same with kenshi. Lol thanks, i'm not downplaying a character that is this good. Never that bro. She top 3 and i'm using her ass for sure, YEAH!!!!! haha.MITDJT THE ABSOLUTE BEST MU CHART FOR SONYA TO DATE. One thing I would like to say though is that sonya freddy should not be advantage freddy. IMO the MU hasn't been played enough offline to really be judged. Offline you can react to projectiles with jumpovers or ducking. Also you don't have to freak out because of freddys sonya and jump like a maniac. IMO kenshi goes even with sonya maybe slight advantage for kenshi but I'm cool with 4-6 kenshi. Sonya loses to kabal 3-7 or 2-8 get that 4-6 shit outa here lol. That MU is so bad its not even funny. I'll prove that MU too if you want me too. Riu48 will agree with me that its horrible. Death wouldn't you say its 3-7?. I honestly believe its 2-8. Its whatever 3-7,2-8 but not 4-6
Believe me, I've thought many times about inquiring if it's an 8-2, she's THE anti-Scorp character all round, she keeps his already unreliable poking game honest, armor has to be spent on takedown because almost everything she does during pressure makes EX spear whiff, her mobility makes hellfire checks useless, she can interrupt his only mid hitting string with arc kick (wut) and has to be respected on every jump in because of her long ass legs on top of a 4 frame divekick. -_- But I have to draw the line and acknowledge that the vortex still exists.IMO Sonya 8-2's Scorpion. I'm pretty sure GamerBlake90 agrees.
I know you've got a boner for Scorp tho so you might not wanna change it
EDIT: Also I know I'll get flamed but I still really see Noob-Sonya being slightly in his favor or even.
As a former scorp main and a curent sonya main I can honestly say this matchup is absolutely fucking terrible for scorpion. I'd say 8-2 is worth talking about. Definitely 7-3.IMO Sonya 8-2's Scorpion. I'm pretty sure GamerBlake90 agrees.
I know you've got a boner for Scorp tho so you might not wanna change it
EDIT: Also I know I'll get flamed but I still really see Noob-Sonya being slightly in his favor or even.
when do i ever get my back blown out? lmao NEVER and i dnt get babied either, so no i won't get bodied.MIT you better not get your back blown out when you use her in tourney lol
uh LBSH, that's like saying "well let's take away the best footsies tool of all characters" that would affect every character significantly.Sonya loses when you have a means to take away her D4 or make it dangerous to use, without that, shes nothing.
Freddy isn't that difficult I really think that MU needs to be played offline more. Kabal is serious for sonya. Look at her dash, compare her dash to cage. Cage's dash is fast and he dashes his full distance almost immediately. If you dash with sonya its weird idk. Its hard to explain but if I show you then you'll know what I'm talking about. By time sonya is midscreen/ jumping distance away, she has to take tiny little dashes to get in which is hard and if you mess up a dash because your so close to kabal you get hit by gas blasts.basically u dash duck up against kabal and play footsies until he corners himself... ull take chip from buzzsaws but up close hes risking a full combo everytime he throws a buzzsaw either by jump or armor... freddy and kenshi have legitimate chip and there is no viable way of getting in against kenshi outside of armor... i can play footsies with kabals zoning i cant vs kenshi... anytime u move vs freddy ur risking spikes.... nms and projectile mixups cause pushback too full screen and u have to worry about homing claws the whole time... even if u duck my straight claw at full screen if u dont jump ur getting spiked for trying to get out.... if u jump i can catch you for 45%. i highly doubt even offline u can perfectly deal with projectile and ground claw mixups... if ur late jumping my low glove ur getting aa spiked.
Lol dude she is too good. But yea for sure freddy needs to be seen more. Freddy doesn't have Kabal or Kenshi zoning imo. You can avoid most of his stuff and its not as overwhelming. On the other hand Kabal is that bad. I'll play you in that MU you'll see why its bad. There no way of getting in unless you jump or ex cartwheel. You also have to be careful of his zoning mixups and not fall for any NDC into gas blast. I get alot of sonya players like that because they are impatient. And even if you dash block to get in. If you don't time your dashes right which for some reason is kinda hard with sonya once you get midscreen, you get a gas blast to the face and you have to block the next one and work your way in again.man curbo pls, kabal sonya is 4 6. Her pressure wrecks him and he must respect her armor/divekick. Once he hits the corner, it's bad news for kabal, and crossups can be punished by armor cartwheel. freddy yeah we need to see that more, and i feel that it is def at worst 6 4, same with kenshi. Lol thanks, i'm not downplaying a character that is this good. Never that bro. She top 3 and i'm using her ass for sure, YEAH!!!!! haha.
Skarlet imo is overrated. She is maybe top 15. Her zoning/spacing sucks because one bad trade and shes loosing. Its pretty easy to bait red slide and once sonya is in its over for her.Skarlet has the tools to make it 5-5 but I can't argue the 6-4 number. It could go either way.
As far as zoning goes, all damage she takes gives her meter and the ability to comeback like quan chi. NEVER COUNT OUT SKARLET (unless she is meterless)Skarlet imo is overrated. She is maybe top 15. Her zoning/spacing sucks because one bad trade and shes loosing. Its pretty easy to bait red slide and once sonya is in its over for her.
BTW...have I ever told you how much I LOVE your signature?Skarlet imo is overrated. She is maybe top 15. Her zoning/spacing sucks because one bad trade and shes loosing. Its pretty easy to bait red slide and once sonya is in its over for her.
Her dash is actually better than his for the entire length. It's an almost negligible difference, but it's still better. I think Cage's "giant" character model makes it seems like he is going faster.Freddy isn't that difficult I really think that MU needs to be played offline more. Kabal is serious for sonya. Look at her dash, compare her dash to cage. Cage's dash is fast and he dashes his full distance almost immediately. If you dash with sonya its weird idk. Its hard to explain but if I show you then you'll know what I'm talking about. By time sonya is midscreen/ jumping distance away, she has to take tiny little dashes to get in which is hard and if you mess up a dash because your so close to kabal you get hit by gas blasts.
i've ran this match with dab, and i can manage to get in and cause havoc. I feel the reason kabal really gives her issues would be the buzzsaw bcuz i have to respect it and it blows up d4s. His iagb aren't hard to avoid, but avoiding things like dash cancel in front of her and grab/overhead/buzzsaw aren't easy to deal with. I know sonya can option select his wakeups with ex cartwheel/ blow up all crossup attempts with ex cartwheel. Divekick can be deadly bcuz one read on a buzzsaw, and that's lights out. Also can she punish his buzzsaw with 114 to etc .?Lol dude she is too good. But yea for sure freddy needs to be seen more. Freddy doesn't have Kabal or Kenshi zoning imo. You can avoid most of his stuff and its not as overwhelming. On the other hand Kabal is that bad. I'll play you in that MU you'll see why its bad. There no way of getting in unless you jump or ex cartwheel. You also have to be careful of his zoning mixups and not fall for any NDC into gas blast. I get alot of sonya players like that because they are impatient. And even if you dash block to get in. If you don't time your dashes right which for some reason is kinda hard with sonya once you get midscreen, you get a gas blast to the face and you have to block the next one and work your way in again.
punishing buzzsaw on block up close is a dream for me. This is a MU breaker IMO and something that most of the cast cannot do.i've ran this match with dab, and i can manage to get in and cause havoc. I feel the reason kabal really gives her issues would be the buzzsaw bcuz i have to respect it and it blows up d4s. His iagb aren't hard to avoid, but avoiding things like dash cancel in front of her and grab/overhead/buzzsaw aren't easy to deal with. I know sonya can option select his wakeups with ex cartwheel/ blow up all crossup attempts with ex cartwheel. Divekick can be deadly bcuz one read on a buzzsaw, and that's lights out. Also can she punish his buzzsaw with 114 to etc .?