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That counter worries me. I wonder what the active window is on that. Looks almost 20 frames from that awkward showing of it. I really hope it's just how the video was edited and the counter window is not upwards of 20 frames.
Killjoy.
Oh continue having your fun, I'm just making an observation... lol
Nah its cool man. And we arent really taking it serious. Obviously we dont really have the info nessecary to even make a remotely competent guess at what the tiers will look like. But it is fun to bullsit about it and make guesses. Il tell you what will be funnier though, looking back at this thread a year from now and seeing how wrong (or right lol) we were about it.
Are you kidding? It looks nowhere near 20 frames in that video. The first time I saw it, I didn't even realise the Sub had used a reversal, I thought Cyrax had randomly frozen himself. I'm sure the reversal will be pretty long, though (as long as his normal version, at least), but it will use up one bar of meter, so it won't be abusable.
i think parts of that video it are probably not possible. like when sub does a sweep into ice slide.
No character will be like UMK3, Juggs. Dream on... lol
lol please NOO!!! I'm curious to see how Smoke plays out, you know they'll give him stinky cloud moves, but I still wonder if he'll get his spear since Scorp already has it. They said nobody will have the same moves this time so I'm wondering, maybe they give smoke a rope or perhaps a grappling hook instead of Scorp's spear? I think that would be pretty neat.
From what Tom told us, NW is VERY close to how he was in UMK3. Sub seems sorta close to a mix between USub and CSub, also.
How fast did it look to you? It certainly looked about 20 frames to me. 20 frames isn't very long for a move, but it's forever for an active counter window. Even if the normal counter doesn't freeze, if it's a 20 frame active window, it's abusable simply by the fact that you don't have need good timing to use it.
What were the active frames on Sub-Zero's counter in MKDC?
Like I said, I didn't even see it the first time. From initiation to contact, I'd say it was around 3F, 5 at most. But yeah, like I said, it'll likely have a big active window, just like in MKDC. That's not really abusable, though, because it means it'll be more punishable, too. If he attempts it and you didn't attack, you'll have plenty of time to hit him with something non-reversable, or launch him in the recovery-frames.
Ed also said they'll have all their original special moves, so Smoke'll have
Maybe we're speaking in two different languages. When I'm referring to frames, I mean the frames of animation... essentially the speed of the attack. A 5 frame attack would be twice the speed of a jab in Tekken 6. If what we saw in that video was 3-5 frames, you literally would not see Sub-Zero's hands move. I clearly saw his hands move, and stop... then the freeze occured. That's why I guessed ~20 frames.
You were talking about initiation frames? It seemed like you were talking about active frames... If Sub's counter is i20, that would be ridiculously poor, because you could only use it on anticipation. I imagine it'll be something like i5-i7, then have around 15-20 active frames, and maybe 10-20 recovery frames.
He wouldn't have a chest harpoon because he won't be Cyborg nor the teleport uppercut but yeah, it's likely they'll give him air throw, and invisiblity while also giving him a spear and a teleport punch.
About 20-23 I believe. There wasn't any frame data pulled for MKDC, so there's no way of exactly telling unless someone does it, but that's about how long the active frames were, maybe slightly longer.
