Salad Petresky
Noob
With a blocked super man, you actually have time to do a jip and punish by a full combo with 321. So you dont have to worry about raiden's sweet spot at all.
With a blocked super man, you actually have time to do a jip and punish by a full combo with 321. So you dont have to worry about raiden's sweet spot at all.
Online? I'm not talking about online. My sparring partner mains Raiden and while hes average at best he still does the basic teleport setups. If I smell teleport its a free combo unless he blocks. Raiden is -13 once he gets behind you and you've turned around so if you don't feel comfortable with the timing of 3 (13 frames) then go with the guarenteed punish of 2 into forceball.
Hmm never knew you could JIP... I'll have to try that, i just always dashed up into 321.
It is true that he is that -13, here are some of the problems
I've never even tried to punish her after it, I always assumed it was safe. Do tell
I believe it's neutral on hit, but d1~cutter can be interrupted by 13 frame moves. Not sure about 112~cutterI've never even tried to punish her after it, I always assumed it was safe. Do tell
Shit really? Just block d1 and go for the money? Def have to try this out.
If I fight against crazy dominican, I can assure you. I probably could get out of kitana's pressure. Im not 100% sure because I have not played him yet. But to be honest, I do not see how he could beat me in this match up. Seriously, its like the only match up I feel like I know it completely. Idk maybe he would prove me wrong. But who am I to say Im better than anyone right lol?
No man, I am not trying to be judgmental, I just play a LOT of solid Kitanas. I'm just saying Reptile players make this mu seem like a cakewalk, I am not saying it isn't reptile favor at all, but it isn't all that easy. I honestly didn't know about punishing cutter with full combo because it seems I am never able to get anything out...saying this, these have ALL been online matchups, I have yet to play a kitana offline. That's probably just a lag thing, so this could change the mu significantly. Like I said dude I'm not judging hell I've played your Reptile and it's sick nasty. I'm just going off of my exp, which because I have absolutely no scene here, I am a tournament player that has to play online a0 lot of the time, so I can be wrong for that reason alone.
Bro this is an EXCELLENT post and completely leveled me up vs Kitana. I play CD kitana occasionally at VSM and I've never had any idea how to handle the "pressure" Kitana. Now I'm looking forward to applying it.
The thing you got to know about punishing cutter is that there is some risk involved. Lets take kitana 212 string as an example. 21cutter on duck block will hit normally. So if you make the correct read, 21 (release block) cutter, (122 bnb). Now lets say you guess wrong, he does 212, you will get hit.... sure. But what? 5% + knock down thats nothing... you take off like 32-40% with 1 mistake
Funny you said that 21 fan lift CAN BE DUCKED (even ex fanlift can be ducked), and cutter can also be ducked lol, and ex cutter can also be ducked. So if the best he can do is 212 which is a knock down and 5%, thats nothing
Yeah I know I said it more for that fact that if you go for the punish you have to wait a second or two longer with lift because it's active longer. Just something to be aware of, but you are right, ducking against kitana is best.
if subzero put out an ice clone and then throw an ice ball right after you ex slide the shit out of that immediately iceball is mad punishable. From full screen reptile has advantage because ex ffb's and acid spit both can hit from full screen in reptiles favor.
Right these are all things I try. Ex slide is great...but it uses meter. If he manages to throw out another clone I'm stuck again. And even with ex ffbal if they are just hucking ice balls, they get me frozen and at worst get a slide on me.
You can't just blindly throw out projectiles, as Seapeople (nice catch I forgot to mention that) said you have to do it before he throws out iceball, this mu takes a lot of patience. You have to wait for opportunities and take advantage of them, remember iceballs don't do chip you have all day to sit there and wait for your opportunity.
That's kind of what I'm saying, once he throws an ice ball I'm stuck. And even if I just set there, if he comes in...its not to attack. It's to bait me into an ice clone. If he hits me once, it seems there would be nothing stopping him from clone and hide for the duration until time expires.
