The hate for the MK community

[ArsenalOfGlory]

MK9 will never be perfect because the casual crowd doesn't understand the difference between broken mechanics and being a sore loser. I still want my Kano back. Damnable patching.

 

[MagicMan357]

MK9 will never be perfect because the casual crowd doesn't understand the difference between broken mechanics and being a sore loser. I still want my Kano back. Damnable patching.

if anything id just fix the fact that the armor should be ON HIS DAMN EX CHOKE LIKE THEY SAID.

 

[ArsenalOfGlory]

I want his old knives back. They're so slow now. The upball I never thought was an issue. They made it faster, then made it way slower.

 

[MagicMan357]

I want his old knives back. They're so slow now. The upball I never thought was an issue. They made it faster, then made it way slower.

Remember though thats what his Ex knives are for (and a combo finally), they patched back his knives it would be broken as hell. Just alternate reg to EX knives to switch it up on the opponent. If you want we can PM, my fellow kano buddy

 

[CptXecution]

How about just show up to tourneys and quit writing novels cause at te end of the day thats what keeps the community alive

I second this....From what I know this has been going on for years and since then you've managed to make over 4,300 posts and not show up to ONE tourney even one that is 30 minutes from you and when others have offered to even PAY FOR YOU. You want to be MK's #1 fanatic, show up to a tourney. I've played you, you have the talent to do so.

I respect the SF community and I think it's what we need to do as well. Sabin aka Arturo has done the opposite...come from SF and respected the MK community and has done nothing but help us. If SF isn't for you then just leave it alone, ignore the haters and try to find the sensible ones in the SF community.

 

[Juggs]

I too hate the breaker. But I think it's necessary in MK9 considering the damage you can do with a combo. However it's pretty flawed. Some characters can get some high damaging unbreakable combos when others can't. The breaker, imo, should be 4 (as oppose to 2) consecutive hits no matter what hit it is . If it's a projectile mid combo like Kitana, it will parry it and you'll drop or something.

Honestly though, the main problem is how quickly you can build meter. Which means you'll almost always have a breaker ready.

 

[Espio]

I like breakers especially since there are multiple characters who can literally KILL you if they land one combo....like Cyrax and Jax....but that's just me.

If they get rid of breakers...combo damage should be toned down drastically because you get to a point where first hit wins and that's not fun or interesting.

I want his old knives back. They're so slow now. The upball I never thought was an issue. They made it faster, then made it way slower.

I want Kano's slow projectile for Jade , her and Sheeva have slow projectiles(not complaining; Sheeva's does 12% /winning), but perspective is important. His projectile isn't slow in comparison to the rest of the characters, if I recall it's still one of the fastest projectiles in the game...what's faster than his knives if I may ask?

 

[STRYKIE]

Yeah, the explosive diarrhea bomb. If that casual gimmicky poopfest era never happened, and MK transitioned from UMK3 to MK9, the series would be A LOT more respected.

Easier said than done, back then the mass market were still too infatuated by 3D graphics/gameplay, regardless of the roots of the said games, it wasn't until the release of New Super Mario Bros on the DS that the novelty of it all finally wore off and 2D was once again welcomed with open arms and taken note of by other publishers. (I'm talking about in general, not just the FGC).

Oh and to be fair, I'd say only Deception and Armaggedon were the gimmick-fests, Deadly Alliance was a great fighting game IMHO (with only a few exploits that Midway hadn't been given the time to iron out), the problem is that it didn't feel like an MK game per se.. MK3/UMK3 itself could've probably been handled a bit better too, but that's a separate thread.

 

[ArsenalOfGlory]

Stryker's gun and Sonya's rings are faster than the knives. Mileena is also up there but I'm not sure. I had to ask my friends about that one. I'm not a frame professor. All I know is that they're not as fast as they used to be and I liked them better the way they were.

You are correct, though. They are pretty quick in comparison to others.

 

[Plop]

Im not sure, but Quan's skull might be faster now too. Don't quote me on that though...


I for one, would fuckin love the old knives back.

 

[Killphil]

Their was a handful of games before Karate Champ that introduced that style, but sure KC is credited for being the first of this genre, but again, no SF, then no MK. It is as simple as that.

Shouldn't we actually be thanking Jean Claude Van Damme for mk? Not only did he not have time to make the brawler game that was retuned to make mk1 but he also turned down a spot in the movie for...STREET FIGHTER!! I see which team he plays for now.....

 

[Tim Static]

Shouldn't we actually be thanking Jean Claude Van Damme for mk? Not only did he not have time to make the brawler game that was retuned to make mk1 but he also turned down a spot in the movie for...STREET FIGHTER!! I see which team he plays for now.....

money talks bro.

 

[MKK hanzo]

I like breakers especially since there are multiple characters who can literally KILL you if they land one combo....like Cyrax and Jax....but that's just me.

If they get rid of breakers...combo damage should be toned down drastically because you get to a point where first hit wins and that's not fun or interesting.





I want Kano's slow projectile for Jade , her and Sheeva have slow projectiles(not complaining; Sheeva's does 12% /winning), but perspective is important. His projectile isn't slow in comparison to the rest of the characters, if I recall it's still one of the fastest projectiles in the game...what's faster than his knives if I may ask?

You didnt had breakers till Deception (not counting max dam in mk4), and it never was an issue, nobody complained. "Eating" a combo was more your fault than a design flaw (imo mk9 is full of design flaws but thats not the point).

 

[STRYKIE]

I too hate the breaker. But I think it's necessary in MK9 considering the damage you can do with a combo. However it's pretty flawed. Some characters can get some high damaging unbreakable combos when others can't. The breaker, imo, should be 4 (as oppose to 2) consecutive hits no matter what hit it is . If it's a projectile mid combo like Kitana, it will parry it and you'll drop or something.

Honestly though, the main problem is how quickly you can build meter. Which means you'll almost always have a breaker ready.

I think it's fine the way it is, it encourages competent meter management and mind games, and considering that in UMK3 for example, 1 mistake against H.Smoke, and you're normally taking 40-50% in damage, nothing you can do about it whatsoever, MK9 would otherwise be a straight chipfest all over again because we'd all be scared of eating everyone's b&b's >_<. I also do agree that you should be able to negate projectiles with your meter somehow in future games, but I don't think it should leave you completely safe the way breaking a physical hit would.

 

[Espio]

Everyone complained about the ridiculous combos in Deadly Alliance, which is why we got breakers in Deception, that wasn't a coincidence and even if that wasn't the case, I never said it was a design flaw, everyone eats combos though(including all the pros) and the fact that so many characters have ridiculous damage, they could decide a fight in one combo. Am I wrong?

It's not like any of us are flawless and can evade all combo damage.

Everyone uses breakers( I have never seen people refuse to use their breaker because they don't like the system), when did they become such a bad idea? It's not like they're free either, you have to build two bars of meter to do them.

I'd also like to add that fighting games didn't use to have meter management or unique styles, fighting games evolve, we didn't use to have these things, but no doubt they have helped the game become more competitive, deep, and interesting as I believe the breaker system does as well.

 

[Vulcan Hades]

You guys are crazy.

I would so not play MK9 if there were no breakers in this game. Too much bullshit going on lol.

 

[MKF30]

I second this....From what I know this has been going on for years and since then you've managed to make over 4,300 posts and not show up to ONE tourney even one that is 30 minutes from you and when others have offered to even PAY FOR YOU. You want to be MK's #1 fanatic, show up to a tourney. I've played you, you have the talent to do so.

I respect the SF community and I think it's what we need to do as well. Sabin aka Arturo has done the opposite...come from SF and respected the MK community and has done nothing but help us. If SF isn't for you then just leave it alone, ignore the haters and try to find the sensible ones in the SF community.

Sabin and Cpt, I'm not sure you guys get what I'm saying...but some how you always manage to bring up "tournaments" out of no where...

How about just show up to tourneys and quit writing novels cause at te end of the day thats what keeps the community alive

Why do you keep posting that wherever I go? It can be totally non-tournament topic yet you'll bring that up? I thought what keeps a community and game alive are it's loyal fans continuing to support it. Is everything "just tournaments" with you dude?


I beg to differ and I'll explain why respectfully, tourneys while they help the game from a competitive standpoint are great for the competitive scene, however didn't sell "3 million+ copies", we've helped that, but aren't the majority(agreed?) those my are all thanks to MK fans in general and the casual gamer who've stuck thru MK thru the ups and downs(not just the ups) , majority of whom don't go to tourneys. They're not everything, that's all I'm saying. You're talking about a competitive tournament standpoint, which is fine. I'm talking from an overall standpoint. Why do I call myself MKF? Well because I am, I'm not a fake fan or fair weather fan like some people out there(not saying you, I'm saying in general before anyone takes it personally), I've ALWAYS stuck with MK thru every game, from MK1 thru Deception to MK9(even before that with side games etc) unlike so many out there who turned their back on MK and then just like "oh I'm an MK fan again, MK9 delivered haha now I can put down SF" Those are true MK fans? lol right... because surely you don't believe they help the MKC by flip flopping. I also collect, talk and enjoy playing MK in general.

You two seem to have this concept that "tourneys rule everything and nothing else matters" they're important for the competitive community, yes....but it's not everything that requires MK to be successful. As much as you may not want to hear it, you think all those copies sold on behalf of "just tournament players" alone? You think it makes a difference to NRS if asked do you care where most of those copies came from guys or just that MK9 sold well? If I'm them, I want the game to do well all around. Casual, hardcore, tournament people, everyone matters. Don't all the fans matter?

BTW, I support MK on my own. I bought both TE and KE(that's over 200 bucks plus DLC) I gave to NRS, nearly 300+ bucks I've spent between controllers, MK stuff, games in general concerning MK9. I've done my part.

Now, what you're talking about is another story entirely and realize this site promotes tournament play which is fine, not disputing that I'm talking about the actual topic. All that stuff I've already been over that numerous times now, while I do feel I could compete at more tourneys besides just the few local ones I've been to, I just don't have the time or money to do so and btw, no CPT there are no tourneys 20 minutes away from me, I live out in Staten Island, the smallest borough, if I invite someone here or to NYC nobody will come because of traffic, I say no to NJ or LI whatever, I get "oh why don't you come" you see the double standard there? That aside I only post on here a few days a week when I can. It's not like I'm the lead poster or something..just posting my opinion like everyone else.

Lastly, being MK's # 1 loyal fan has nothing to do with attending every tourney out there...it's all about who has the time and money, you have the time and money, go for it but please don't judge me when you don't know much about me. Thanks. I'm here to support MK in my own way and to talk about MK. If I can attend a tourney, I'd be sure to let people know but atm it's not my #1 priority.

 

[SHAOLIN]

Seeing how I'm a person who went from SF to MK can't seem wrap my brain around why there is hate between these two community......Y'all both clearly love fighting game, so can we all just get along PLZ!!!!!!!!


P.S MKF30 clearly I can see YOU are a big MK Fan so glad to see that

 

[Panque]

I find it hilarious you think i should have PM'd you when you should have PM'd RagingNight instead of making the comments you did (same with him tbh). Sorry you tried to start shit in a thread i was already active in and saw those posts before someone reported them. Reported them you say? Yes, there is a feature on this site that allows members to report content in the forums so that our staff can see it and moderate it accordingly. Look below your signature picture and you see such features. And FTR, i know you as much as i know RagingNight, just so you know.

I find it hilarious that you avoid commenting on how did I offend the SF franchise. But I give up trying to ask.

 

[Juggs]

I beg to differ and I'll explain why respectfully, tourneys while they help the game from a competitive standpoint are great for the competitive scene, however didn't sell "3 million+ copies"

Nope, sure didn't. You're right about that.

You two seem to have this concept that "tourneys rule everything and nothing else matters" they're important for the competitive community, yes....but it's not everything that requires MK to be successful. As much as you may not want to hear it, you think all those copies sold on behalf of "just tournament players" alone? You think it makes a difference to NRS if asked do you care where most of those copies came from guys or just that MK9 sold well? If I'm them, I want the game to do well all around. Casual, hardcore, tournament people, everyone matters. Don't all the fans matter?

Tournaments haven't been everything or even anything in the past for MK games. That is, the 3D MK games. The players who came from or started playing "competitively" online with the 3D games seem to have a difficult time understanding how important tournaments are to our community. We aren't on GameFaqs here. We aren't casual fans of MK. TYM is dedicated to the competitive scene and tournament players for MK. If you want to be a casual fan and say that the # of copies sold matters more than the # of tournament players, than you clearly don't belong here. MK selling extremely well has never been a problem. The problem has always been the quality of the game (since MK4). That's exactly why we've only really seen UMK3 being played at tournaments before MK9.

So what's your point? Supporting the game outside of tournaments isn't needed. Like you said, they've sold over 3 million copies, they don't need any support. What we do need is competitive support. We need people supporting the game at tournaments. What your talking about is irrelevant to what TYM and our community is trying to accomplish. We couldn't care less how many millions of copies of MK9 were sold. If we can't get those players going to tournaments, it honestly doesn't matter. That's why people are frustrated with you, MKF. You represent all those millions of players who could make the MK tournament scene the biggest and most powerful scene if you would just nut up and go to tournaments. Of course we realize you can't make it to them all due to life and money issues. But c'mon, you've had over 5 years to save up and you still haven't shown up even to tournaments in your backyard. I'll admit I haven't been to a lot of tournaments either, but that's because I don't really like MK9 competitively. I will be at Final Round though, just to support MK and the scene and meet everyone and be SOCIAL. I'm sure it feels like someone is always bagging on you, but can you blame them?

 

[MKF30]

Nope, sure didn't. You're right about that.



Tournaments haven't been everything or even anything in the past for MK games. That is, the 3D MK games. The players who came from or started playing "competitively" online with the 3D games seem to have a difficult time understanding how important tournaments are to our community. We aren't on GameFaqs here. We aren't casual fans of MK. TYM is dedicated to the competitive scene and tournament players for MK. If you want to be a casual fan and say that the # of copies sold matters more than the # of tournament players, than you clearly don't belong here. MK selling extremely well has never been a problem. The problem has always been the quality of the game (since MK4). That's exactly why we've only really seen UMK3 being played at tournaments before MK9.

So what's your point? Supporting the game outside of tournaments isn't needed. Like you said, they've sold over 3 million copies, they don't need any support. What we do need is competitive support. We need people supporting the game at tournaments. What your talking about is irrelevant to what TYM and our community is trying to accomplish. We couldn't care less how many millions of copies of MK9 were sold. If we can't get those players going to tournaments, it honestly doesn't matter. That's why people are frustrated with you, MKF. You represent all those millions of players who could make the MK tournament scene the biggest and most powerful scene if you would just nut up and go to tournaments. Of course we realize you can't make it to them all due to life and money issues. But c'mon, you've had over 5 years to save up and you still haven't shown up even to tournaments in your backyard. I'll admit I haven't been to a lot of tournaments either, but that's because I don't really like MK9 competitively. I will be at Final Round though, just to support MK and the scene and meet everyone and be SOCIAL. I'm sure it feels like someone is always bagging on you, but can you blame them?

Yes, I can when I've told people like 100 times lol dude. Especially when some others on here constantly make trolling topics at times or talk big. I just do my own thing, I don't do that. Do I bash others for not going to tourneys regardless of online/offline player? Nope, all I ask for is the same courtesy. This is what I don't get. I will only snap back at folks who continue to give me a hard time after numerous times of explaining my situation to them. Now, I know you and others offline I'm sure hate me or don't like me(so I've heard from some people) which ask yourself, how would that make me feel? Besides uncomfortable lol.

Ok, glad you see my point concerning the overall fanbase and how it's helped MK(besides just the tourney guys obviously from a competitive perspective)

Yeah, the 3D games we all know how much they fall behind compared to the 2D MK's and of course MK9. Their biggest thing was really the online(being as how I played them myself). See, I see myself as all of the above, the only thing with me is I just have priorities that are more important then MK. I don't even come on here as much anymore(as you should tell from my post comparison to in the past) because of more important things, I'll play MK online at night time usually. Thing is, not everyone registered on this site is "a tourney player" you have to admit, a lot of casual or guys who want to improve join here but have no intentions of going to a tourney or simply can't for whatever reasons.

My point was that MK9's success came from the fanbase "whole" I get TYM promotes tourney play and nothing else matters or comes second, but I don't really believe that when I see Storm's post vids like "real life Mortal Kombat" what does that have to do with "tournament play" per-se? Nothing. You see my point here?

You're talking about two different things it seems. TYM promotes competitive, serious play for offline but I see as many online related topics here as well and I tend to play more online then offline atm anyway. So what's wrong with that? Even a lot of the offline players play online(not saying all but a lot) I don't see myself as repping the world or anyone else, but what a true MK fan whole should be. You'll notice I played the 3D games, I played the classic ones and I play the new one. I don't flip flop like a lot of people out there "one second MK rocks, next it sucks..oh it rocks again so I'll jump on the bandwagon" you will not see this behavior from me.

There's never been a tourney in my own backyard and technically I have, you can't believe what some "haters" I have out there tell you, I don't live 20 minutes away from VSM, more like at least 1 hour if not more 2 from LI area on a typical day. There were two tourneys in Staten Island NYC where I live, one being serious with money prizes couple hundred bucks which I won had 30 people who gamechamp(a place like play and trade), I spoke about it on here but nobody cared or wants to travel to NYC due to "traffic" but when I say I can't go, I get the riot act...you see that's my problem with the hypocritical criticism. I don't believe anyone should bash me for not being able to go if they're not willing to come here as well. How often are there events in "NYC" itself, any of the 5 boroughs? Exactly, it's always far out NJ or LI. You must realize, it takes time for me, Salty Battles I googled it is nearly 2 hours away from me, I asked my friends who work/worked in NJ and live where I do and I don't drive that's an issue obviously. Only reason why I've rejected offers at times is because one, that's out of their way to go back and forth and secondly, I can't stay until 4am or 6am whatever time they play to due to things I must do on a daily basis. I'm also atm looking into online courses going back to school for some things to try to make it easier with the travel expenses etc

It sounds like you personally want me to attend these things to represent the overall MK fanatic at an offline event? Not saying that's a bad thing, I just find it interesting that different offline people tell me different things. Some others tell me to go and play, then people will take me more seriously or believe "I'm good or competitive" but that's why I mentioned people have too much of a cut throat mentality, that personally can scare or turn people off. I mean, it is a game remember. It's not like anyone is benefiting personally from it like a job. I get the support the MK scene, outside of that however with the offline gigs I've done everything else in my power to support MK in general from buying copies of it to online to telling the MK team about glitches etc(while I know others do as well) just saying, if I didn't care I wouldnt mention it, now would I?

 

[SHAOLIN]

I will be at Final Round though, just to support MK and the scene and meet everyone and be SOCIAL.

glad to here that,hope to see you there we need as much support as possible at big tourney like these for MK

 

[MK9]

he just like a bad stench, i can just smell him trolling.

I don't care about this game and What Not Really Serious tries to make, they have all sucked since mk4... learn how to make blocking working correctly cause you cant ever get it right.


now on to MKF, dude you don't drive so stop talking.

VSM is 30 mins from you, it takes me an hour and 120 to get to NJ, that's going through Staten Island. If you live anywhere by that showplace shopping center you are no more than 30 mins from VSM.

All the tourns held in NJ have been 30- 45 mins from your, stop lying, wipe ya chin and show.... This is why your account has been banned from all offline threads , cause you just talk and talk, nothing has changed with you since MKD and nothing will, you have cried poverty for 10 years now, just stop.

 

[MKF30]

lol, nah actually I'm clean. But it would smell once I'm done with certain people See that's what I'm talking abou juggernaut, I can do without the certain idiots there but then from what everyone tells me it's typically the biggest "trash talkers" online who say nothing in person. From my sources about certain individuals.

A lot of people don't drive, hate to break it to you and no VSM is not 30 minutes away...I live in SI, not Queens so please get a clue already.

Stop acting as if you know "where I live" exactly because you don't.

I don't live near showplace, it takes me at least 20 minutes or longer pending traffic to get there unless there's a clear way on victory...lol, 30 minutes? that's another lie because when map quested, salty battles says 1 estimated, so again you are wrong red. Besides, I'm quite certain in person or online the end result will be the same as usual, me beating you and you making excuses when you lose. I've kept track of every player online and off. I haven't even seen or heard of you in MK9 at all...wonder why, probably can't get past one guy on here lol. Piece of advice, mind your own business and stop trolling as usual. If no mods will tell you, I will. BTW, 10 years? uhh you didn't know me 10 years, more lies and nobody played offline for 3D MK...

 

[MK9]

Are you retarded, yes some people don't drive, but i don't no to many of them that are 30. unless they live in NYC which you do not. Shock and them make it to VSM is under an hour and they are coming from NJ, anyone who DRIVES knows mapquest takes to all the half ass ways, its 30 mins from you. I drive through Staten island once a month, I know where you live.

I quit this game like many cause it died fast, they made one to many hot fixes, and its just not a fun game, but what else it new from a game made by Not Really Serious, things never change when the people making it stay the same. they tried, they improved, but still needs a lot of work on there end with the frame rates and hit boxes.