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ImpostorOak

Goro is a Pokémon
He needs a buff to permanently cover up that horrific face of his. What the FUCK did NRS do to him?
Idk man, I'm not the guy who cares how their faces look. Lmao. He's got the high tech suit with the whips so I think he looks cool asf. Spider-Man-Scorpion looks good. What's wrong with his face?

He needs b3 to travel farther by 100%, B21 to have a safe gapless ender, and all of his damage nerfs reverted. THEN he can be 2nd worst in the game.
 

Eldriken

Life was wasted on you.
Idk man, I'm not the guy who cares how their faces look. Lmao. He's got the high tech suit with the whips so I think he looks cool asf. Spider-Man-Scorpion looks good. What's wrong with his face?

He needs b3 to travel farther by 100%, B21 to have a safe gapless ender, and all of his damage nerfs reverted. THEN he can be 2nd worst in the game.
He looks fine until the mask comes off. Other than that, he looks fucking incredible. I love his design.
 

NHDR

Kombatant
So Geras is good now? Can anyone give details? Don't play him at all but have always been intrigued by the character. Is Motaro his best kameo?
 

Baconlord

Proud follower of the church of Cetrion
Where do you rank Sektor?
I have her upper mid tier, top 15ish. She's one of those characters where she either destroys you or gets ran over. Like I think she legitimately 7-3s characters like shao and cyrax and she does really well against other top tier like ermac and scorpion. But she also has horrendous matchups that feel like 3-7s against characters like Quan, peacemaker, and rain. Not to mention sub kameo is a ridiculously good hard counter against her.

She's still good because instant air rockets are a strong enough tool to give her oppressive neutral in a lot of matchups but her buttons are so ass that she doesn't have other tools to win with her main gameplan. Like her mid is slow and gets killed by characters with 6 framers, overhead is unreliable offline (although it's an ok tool to shimmy), b34 is a good auto shimmy but it's hard to open people up with it that no the matchup because there's not a strong throw threat with no viable throw combos team (one of the biggest reasons I don't like the Movado team). Best she can do in a lot of matchups where her zoning isn't relevant is to jump around and try to bait people with her float.

She's just feels more like a counter pick character and not a complete one.
 

M2Dave

Zoning Master
I have her upper mid tier, top 15ish. She's one of those characters where she either destroys you or gets ran over. Like I think she legitimately 7-3s characters like shao and cyrax and she does really well against other top tier like ermac and scorpion. But she also has horrendous matchups that feel like 3-7s against characters like Quan, peacemaker, and rain. Not to mention sub kameo is a ridiculously good hard counter against her.

She's still good because instant air rockets are a strong enough tool to give her oppressive neutral in a lot of matchups but her buttons are so ass that she doesn't have other tools to win with her main gameplan. Like her mid is slow and gets killed by characters with 6 framers, overhead is unreliable offline (although it's an ok tool to shimmy), b34 is a good auto shimmy but it's hard to open people up with it that no the matchup because there's not a strong throw threat with no viable throw combos team (one of the biggest reasons I don't like the Movado team). Best she can do in a lot of matchups where her zoning isn't relevant is to jump around and try to bait people with her float.

She's just feels more like a counter pick character and not a complete one.
Without starting another Mavado versus Motaro debate, a couple of Sektor's weaknesses can be mitigated with Mavado. b+3,4, which is faster and safer than f+2,1 by one frame, offers easy conversions with forward kameo. Furthermore, back kameo helps against anti-zoning zealotry (i.e., Sub Zero's ice armor, Peacemaker's force field, Rain's water bubble, etc.) while the mine can be used to combo from back throw, albeit the timing is odd and the damage output is low. You can also use the mine sparingly to steal turns after blocked low pokes or b+3,4.

I do not mind Sektor's weaknesses as much as I mind the fact that very few kameos provide meaningful conversions after b+3,4, which is evidently Sektor's best string. The teleport lacking an aerial hitbox is also highly annoying in zoning wars. I perfectly understand that the teleport is designed to have a grounded "splash" hitbox for the sake of combos, but if Sektor is supposed to be a zoning character and anti-zoning character, let her be such. There ought to be an alternative version of the teleport that hits airborne opponents.
 

Felipe_Gewehr

Twinktile
22169

My take on the current meta. A disclaimer though - "nerfs" here don't necessarily always mean "nerfs to the character itself" but in some cases only doing something to reduce the effectiveness of some synergies with some kameos. Johnny has no kameo with a special synergy, but Homelander, Havik and Scorpion do, for example.

I'm also unsure if the B tier actually exists or should be just considered part of A tier