Best NRS game of the Decade?

[sub_on_dubs]

I'm a little surprised that Mk9 won the poll, but pleasantly surprised as well. It might be my favorite game of all time. I'd have to really think about it, but it'd be in the top 5 easily. It had its issues, but the fun factor was off the charts.

 

[Iron Lungs]

Except gameplay mechanics and roster choice lol

Mk11 mechanics are 80% fine to me accept a few issues. Still way better than mk9 lol.

 

[MKF30]

Mk11 mechanics are 80% fine to me accept a few issues. Still way better than mk9 lol.

Nahh lol. I dont think mk 11 is better than mk 9 as the gameplay mechanics are better in mk.9. That and mk 9 doesnt rely on gimmicks like mk 11. Mk 11 mechanics are 50% broken to me and waste of meter half the time and you shouldn't get pu ished for a breakaway, breakers were much better. The people have spoken. But to each his own dude.

 

[OnlineSkunk]

Balance wise MK11 it's the best NRS game. MK9 issues could've been fixed with a patch but MK11 issues can still be fixed with a patch, MK9 would still be my favorite if they were both patched just because I find MK9 more fun play, MK9 had more creative ways to do combos, IAFBs felt good, etc. This is all personal preference, one thing I don't like it's combos not rewarding players that have great execution with extra damage though.

 

[superbn0va]

does the MK9 modded version allow you to play online still? Id love to go back and play MK9

 

[MKF30]

I will take frustrating balance over frustrating mechanics anyday!

Exactly! MK 11 may have more balanced characters than MK 9, but MK 9 has better gameplay mechanics to work with that actually work.

 

[Marinjuana]

does the MK9 modded version allow you to play online still? Id love to go back and play MK9

Idk how it works but I'm pretty sure it does! You might need a buddy to play with

 

[ThaShiveGeek]

Injustice Gods Among Us

 

[Iron Lungs]

Who has mk9 tournament edition? If w can play that online im with it! Vanilla mk9 to me is trash but this version is A1.

 

[aj1701]

Lots of stupidity.

BS. I know b/c I played MK9 for probably over a year, almost daily. I only played MKX for about 6 weeks before I didn't care about it anymore, and only had to rent MK11 for a weekend to know I didn't even want to buy it. M9 was flat out more fun; better graphics doesn't make up for boring gameplay. You're entitled to your opinion, but don't tell anyone that voted for MK9 that they don't understand their own opinion.

 

[Vslayer]

Most fun and nostalgic would be MK9 for sure, not surprised it won. But MK11 comes second for me. For all it's faults, it's a solid FG.

 

[Vampbites]

I can't choooose lol

 

[mastermalone]

I will take frustrating balance over frustrating mechanics anyday!

Enjoy, sir.

 

[CrimsonShadow]

I had a hard time adjusting to IJ2, but I think that was the best designed game. Rushdown had its place, zoning had its place, grappling had its place. The balancing was a little hit or miss, most notably with how OP Deadshot was and how garbage he became. It was also a game with a much more uncertain tournament outcome most of the time. These days it's either Ninjakilla or Sonic taking the majors almost back to back. In IJ2. we had Whiteboi doing work, Tweedy doing work, Dragon taking Evo, BioHazard taking a major. Let alone the ELeague finals where ForeverKing double eliminated SonicFox in dominant fashion.

I just feel Injustice 2 had a meta which was competitively viable for most playstyles. Characters didn't necessarily need long normals to be effective. I've been around since MK9, and whenever I think back on hype NRS moments - Injustice 2 is what I tend to associate them with

This was really inevitable, though. I mean, even Whiteboi knows that his major win was an anomaly. He was playing on fire that day and he deserved it, but it’s not like he was expecting to win majors consistently.

The truth is that as the gameplay mechanics become more consistent and the absolute top players become even better, those with the highest skill will win more often than not. And right now, that’s Sonic and Ninja by a longshot.

People love to mention King beating Sonic, but what they don’t remember is that this was right when Sonic stopped labbing Injustice to go hard in MVC:I (and then DBFZ right after). Punk did the same thing and ended up missing a couple of SFV5 top 8s, which was unheard of for him at that time. Sonic looked obviously rusty and people took advantage.

The truth is that Sonic and ninja are just better and still getting better, and that makes them tough to top. But just like the scene was different before Dragon, and before Ninja, I’m sure we’ll continue to see fresh blood come in and challenge the top guys over time.

 

[CrimsonShadow]

My only beef with people saying MK9 is where y’all at when we got setups at tournaments & trying to get people for side tournaments. Sign up! We trying to throw hands.

This is the biggest indicator of the hypocrisy Dave is talking about. For years, people said, “If we just had a patch for MK9, we’d just play that”.

Then someone came along, dedicated months of his life to patching the game, even took community feedback here for fixes and changes.. And maybe 4 people total play it. His thread is a graveyard with maybe 1-2 people posting every 8-9 months. And no one has shown that they’d take MK9 seriously in tournament again.

We recently had an MK9 tourney (I think it was KIT, two years ago)? And it wasn’t hype, because none of the top players were seriously grinding or playing it. Everyone just looked sloppy and rusty. Which shows that it wasn’t just the game — it was the community we had at the time, which adds to the joy of our memories.

There’s nothing wrong with being nostalgic. I get it. We all fondly remember games from our past. We obviously all like MK9, because it’s the game that brought many of us here in the first place. Thus it’s the biggest common factor we have, because 90% of the people who joined the community when MK9 revived the 2D era came because they liked MK9 when the rest of the FGC hated and shunned it.

But people who are nostalgic about it need to admit that it doesn’t hold up to the high standards that we’re placing on current competitive fighting games. And it should be ok to admit both. The lack of interest in competitive MK9 even after the patch speaks volumes.

 

[Under_The_Mayo]

Enjoy, sir.

I do, I did! As did many. 4 years at evo is more than X had. 11 will be lucky to have 2.

 

[mastermalone]

I do, I did! As did many. 4 years at evo is more than X had. 11 will be lucky to have 2.

This is good that you and many others really believe that this game is the best of all the past NRS efforts. With this much support you can easily get a solid scene going for MK9 with little effort, since it is the best after all.

If I don't see the revival of this game with as many of you that believe in it, then I will chalk it up to my previous statement. Nothing but rose tinted glasses. Any game, regardless of its age can have a healthy scene full of supporters. I'm not knocking anyone that likes MK9. I love the game for what it is, but I do not believe it is the best in terms of gameplay or fun. If it was, I would be seeing a lot of recent tournament footage on YouTube. But hey, that's just my opinion.

 

[MKF30]

So it would seem some people(definitely not in the majority) feel that unless we play mk 9 at tournaments they cant have a viable opinion on mk 9 being their preference? See things like this sounds like a very arrogant, elitist mentality to me which really has nothing to do with the question at hand. Different people like different games for various reasons and are allowed to. Some people seem to not be understanding this, most players dont play these games as seriously as some of us on here nevermind at tournaments nor care enough to, then theres the money issue and time.

The whole point of improving netplay is so we dont have to gauge the games playability, players skill level just at offline scenes. Because let's be honest most people on here in general simply dont have the time to waste on that or the money to waste.

As time goes on naturally standards get higher and guess what, 10 years from now the standards will be way higher than mk 11 but for those who love mk 11 will that tarnish or change your opinion of how much you enjoy mk 11? No it wont. Same difference with MK9 being preferred over MK11.

I'd also like to add that keep in mind if not for WB and nrs paving the way with mk 9, youd have no mk 11. Not saying everyone has to love mk 9 but please give credit where credit is due.

 

[mastermalone]

So it would seem some people(definitely not in the majority) feel that unless we play mk 9 at tournaments they cant have a viable opinion on mk 9 being their preference? See things like this sounds like a very arrogant, elitist mentality to me which really has nothing to do with the question at hand. Different people like different games for various reasons and are allowed to. Some people seem to not be understanding this, most players dont play these games as seriously as some of us on here nevermind at tournaments nor care enough to, then theres the money issue and time.

The whole point of improving netplay is so we dont have to gauge the games playability, players skill level just at offline scenes. Because let's be honest most people on here in general simply dont have the time to waste on that or the money to waste.

As time goes on naturally standards get higher and guess what, 10 years from now the standards will be way higher than mk 11 but for those who love mk 11 will that tarnish or change your opinion of how much you enjoy mk 11? No it wont. Same difference with MK9 being preferred over MK11.

I'd also like to add that keep in mind if not for WB and nrs paving the way with mk 9, youd have no mk 11. Not saying everyone has to love mk 9 but please give credit where credit is due.

I'm nowhere near an elitist. I'm not qualified to be lol! You are correct that a game can be considered the best in a series and can be loved by many yet, not have an active scene. However, there are games like Street Fighter 3: 3rd Strike which still have active scenes thanks to players who love and still support it. Two years ago, I won a 3rd Strike tournament in Pomona, CA. Lots of players were there.

My only point was that if MK9 had at least the level of support 3rd Strike does, I would tend to agree that it must really be one of the most beloved MK's of the recent offerings. If I'm not mistaken, MK9 can still be played online via the Xbox 360. Sadly, last time I checked, it was a ghost town.

Again, I'm not knocking anyone for loving MK9. I love it too. I just can't accept that it is the best if it is not actively being played by anyone on a regular basis. I'm happy that it has won the poll, but saddened that those who should suport it don't.

 

[Iron Lungs]

@mastermalone youre using logic against emotional people, just let them live in the obvious fantasy

 

[chrisisnice]

Some of you are being terribly patronising.

I don't understand the assertion that if it MK9 is not played regularly, it is not a legitimate choice to be your favorite title.

Final Fantasy X is in my top 5 games of all time. I loved the battle system, the characters, the settings, the boss fights and side games. Just because I don't play it all the time, it doesn't mean that it cannot be one of my favorite games. This is not a case of rose coloured glasses - whenever I play it, I still love it just as much.

Similarly, MK9 is one of my favorites of all time. I love the battle system, the roster, the backgrounds, the music, pulling off fun combos etc etc. Whenever I play it, I love it just as much.

MK11 is certainly more balanced and has less exploits, but for me, it is pretty boring and I don't play it much (I much prefer MKX). For me, the roster is terrible, the story and aesthetics are really lame, the playstyle is slow and boring, many of the characters seem incomplete, and it lacks hype.

People like games for different reasons. I don't think you should impose your opinions on others if they do not comply with your ideals of what makes a good game.

 

[MKF30]

To the dude who mentioned emotions lol I'm not emotional just pointing out what most here have regarding those who are emotionally triggered by those who voted for mk 9 who are pro mk 11 so the irony is a bit amusing bro. The only fantasy I see here honestly are those who are trying to belittle, lowball others views because they happen to disagree with theirs thinking MK 11 is better when the results say otherwise. I mean if you read the thread clearly there's way more people emotional about mk 11 not winning the poll as oppose to anyone else preferences. Just saying.

I'm nowhere near an elitist. I'm not qualified to be lol! You are correct that a game can be considered the best in a series and can be loved by many yet, not have an active scene. However, there are games like Street Fighter 3: 3rd Strike which still have active scenes thanks to players who love and still support it. Two years ago, I won a 3rd Strike tournament in Pomona, CA. Lots of players were there.

My only point was that if MK9 had at least the level of support 3rd Strike does, I would tend to agree that it must really be one of the most beloved MK's of the recent offerings. If I'm not mistaken, MK9 can still be played online via the Xbox 360. Sadly, last time I checked, it was a ghost town.

Again, I'm not knocking anyone for loving MK9. I love it too. I just can't accept that it is the best if it is not actively being played by anyone on a regular basis. I'm happy that it has won the poll, but saddened that those who should suport it don't.

I'm not talking about you dude no worries lol. I know you're not I've spoken to you you're a nice guy. You know me I love mk and played even the bad ones or not so great ones. But I know what you mean. For me I think it's sad to see people just jump on since mk x and act like they've been playing mk for years like you and I and act as if the others are all bad which we both know isnt true. Know what I mean?

I was on there few weeks back when I went it said servers were down so not sure if they were doing work that day or if they're down for good.

Sorry if my post sounded like it was directed at you man, definitely not lol. You're open minded and too cool and I know you're a seasoned fg vet. I've learned a thing or two from you over the years. On the game front I guess we have our preferences I dont hate mk 11 play it I just feel like something is missing that mk 9 had. Hopefully they'll do a mk 9 updated legit some day.

 

[mastermalone]

Some of you are being terribly patronising.

I don't understand the assertion that if it MK9 is not played regularly, it is not a legitimate choice to be your favorite title.

Final Fantasy X is in my top 5 games of all time. I loved the battle system, the characters, the settings, the boss fights and side games. Just because I don't play it all the time, it doesn't mean that it cannot be one of my favorite games. This is not a case of rose coloured glasses - whenever I play it, I still love it just as much.

Similarly, MK9 is one of my favorites of all time. I love the battle system, the roster, the backgrounds, the music, pulling off fun combos etc etc. Whenever I play it, I love it just as much.

MK11 is certainly more balanced and has less exploits, but for me, it is pretty boring and I don't play it much (I much prefer MKX). For me, the roster is terrible, the story and aesthetics are really lame, the playstyle is slow and boring, many of the characters seem incomplete, and it lacks hype.

People like games for different reasons. I don't think you should impose your opinions on others if they do not comply with your ideals of what makes a good game.

I never personally said MK9 could not be anyone's favorite. The thread states "Best NRS game of the decade", not favorite. If you all prefer MK9 over any other NRS game, that's perfectly fine.

 

[mastermalone]

Ok, so I just finished playing a long set in MK9 on the 360 against a lone player in the Rooms. Here's my take away:

Definitely rose tinted glasses. The game does not feel as smooth or responsive, even offline in practice mode. Dare I say the game seemed slower than I remembered. Even with that being said, the game was fun. That was the first online games I've played in MK9 in over 5 years.

I have to say that NRS's more recent offerings such as IJ2, MKXL and MK11 are in my opinion, superior games. Go online and see for yourselves. If you can find a match, play a few rounds and be honest in your comparison.

My goal was never to change anyone's opinions. It was to make sure we are all being as objective as possible when we make statements such as MK9 being the best NRS game of the decade.

 

[superbn0va]

This is the biggest indicator of the hypocrisy Dave is talking about. For years, people said, “If we just had a patch for MK9, we’d just play that”.

Then someone came along, dedicated months of his life to patching the game, even took community feedback here for fixes and changes.. And maybe 4 people total play it. His thread is a graveyard with maybe 1-2 people posting every 8-9 months. And no one has shown that they’d take MK9 seriously in tournament again.

We recently had an MK9 tourney (I think it was KIT, two years ago)? And it wasn’t hype, because none of the top players were seriously grinding or playing it. Everyone just looked sloppy and rusty. Which shows that it wasn’t just the game — it was the community we had at the time, which adds to the joy of our memories.

There’s nothing wrong with being nostalgic. I get it. We all fondly remember games from our past. We obviously all like MK9, because it’s the game that brought many of us here in the first place. Thus it’s the biggest common factor we have, because 90% of the people who joined the community when MK9 revived the 2D era came because they liked MK9 when the rest of the FGC hated and shunned it.

But people who are nostalgic about it need to admit that it doesn’t hold up to the high standards that we’re placing on current competitive fighting games. And it should be ok to admit both. The lack of interest in competitive MK9 even after the patch speaks volumes.

The game is just not relevant anymore. players always invest in the latest installments of the series. That is where the money is at.

MK9 has already proven it's charm and quality. Im still hoping for a remastered version with updates. Even if the updates are minor..