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What do you mean by "spacing traps" with these normals?
What do you mean by "spacing traps" with these normals?
They leave you at a certain range where you can b1 for free if they try to counterpoke
ill have to keep that in mind for when i land jump ins
Not sure whether spacing traps is the correct terminology, but these normals have quite a lot of pushback on block, so slight walk back into B1 will whiff punish most counterpoke attempts.
Oh shoot, didn't know that. Nice. Does this work if they have quick farther reaching advancing normals like Cassie's B2?
You can't hit confirm a sweep (b4). =P
Not going to lie hitconfirming f4 is pretty hard, I practice it quite a lot and I‘d say I can do it 7/10 times, 8/10 Maybe if I‘m focused
F4. F4 lol. Don't want people thinking Kabal has some unique combo-extending sweeps lol!
Ah yes I'm going to practice that then. Starting to get down a bit of consistency with the others. His two hit strings seem like a straightforward hit confirm. You see it and react accordingly. I've got to get down consistency with the one hitters though. I feel like anyone who can hit confirm F2, B1, and F4 one hit normals combined with hit confirming his strings makes the character even better by a good margin, as the opponent has too many options to try to react against. F4 was the hardest for me, and F2 slightly easier but still hard. Going to try this trick later today.
F3 cancel is +8, hitconfirmable and is really good to use on oki so might be worth practicing that confirm too
Is it worth the cancel since f3 is +6 without it? I never use f3 and haven't used Mean Streak at all. Feel free to clue me in on anything and everything. lol
I change my mind on this a lot if I'm honest, spending the bar makes it hit confirmable and eliminates any pushback so you get a legit strike throw mix from it, depends if you have the resources to blow I guess.
Imo yes because it‘s one of the few things in this game that can actually jail. After f3ndc you can jail 111 into it which is an easy hitconfirm and safe on Block. Also f3ndc leaves at a range where you can frame trap with f2, raw f3 leaves you outside of f2 range
His 2 string is probably his best stagger imo. 2 is a special high +3, 22 is -1 (0 on crouch block) with good pushback and if people keep disrespecting you after 22 you can hit them with 224.
Funny how we like the same characters in this game (Skarlet/Kabal). If you played Cetrion we'd be 3/3.
That sounds just downright dirty lol. With mastered execution, if they're block holding you can do something like F4-cancel, S2, F4-cancel, back throw if you have the resources or lead or etc, and by the time they are getting up you'd have already gotten the first bar back right? Or if it opened them up, then full combo. Or more practical just use the one bar into very hard to react mixup or pressure. Man. I need to get home lol.
It seems like S2 being a high doesn't even really matter for Kabal because no one is going to duck up close against him unless it's a hard read like trying to counter a throw. Funny how 2-string is potentially his best stagger, and it's the string I've literally been using the least LOL. I saw using S2 for the plus frames but that's as far as I've been using it so far. Epic self fail.
His s2 string is even good in clean cut tbh, people just don't use it enough lolFunny how we like the same characters in this game (Skarlet/Kabal). If you played Cetrion we'd be 3/3.
Getting into Kabal, I actually like Mean Streak better. You should definitely give it a tryout! I get the impression that it can be overwhelming for opponents once mastered since he already has good normals, and staggers, plus the cancels in it.
So you can figure my excitement when I found more Mean streak players here than you see in actual play, or anywhere really haha.
That sounds just downright dirty lol. With mastered execution, if they're block holding you can do something like F4-cancel, S2, F4-cancel, back throw if you have the resources or lead or etc, and by the time they are getting up you'd have already gotten the first bar back right? Or if it opened them up, then full combo. Or more practical just use the one bar into very hard to react mixup or pressure. Man. I need to get home lol.
It seems like S2 being a high doesn't even really matter for Kabal because no one is going to duck up close against him unless it's a hard read like trying to counter a throw. Funny how 2-string is potentially his best stagger, and it's the string I've literally been using the least LOL. I saw using S2 for the plus frames but that's as far as I've been using it so far. Epic self fail.
yeah every part of this string is amazing. 22 pushback is extremely good, I love doing d4 after it it catches so many people
yup he regenerates his bar back fairly quick. you don't even have to cancel f4 on the second rep, like @The_Tile said a creates kind of a spacing trap even without ndc so you have alot of options which are all safe if you have the execution. playing him like that is really hard though but it's definitely worth practicing.
Legit writing these things down in order for practice when I get home lol.
I'd assume for oki, though he gets pretty good oki off DB4 anyway. I haven't actually labbed the nomad dash ender though so I could be missing something
Yeah he‘s doing crossup kicks most of time After it but I don‘t know if it‘s worth leaving this much damage on the table everytime
Watched at 33 and 1:01, and man. I'm playing so sub-optimal lol. Those hit confirms and pressure was something to behold. Learned a lot just from watching that.
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I should probably learn how to actually play Kabal first. I probably use him completely wrong. I feel like I do so much worse with him than what he's capable of. It's definitely user error.