Online play is useful to an extent

[Juggs]

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There should be no arguments that don't pertain to the topic. This back and fourth nit picking from you two needs to stop, please.

Stick to the topic, thanks.

 

[Shock]

MKF30, you really should come out to some casuals and try your hand against me, Nit, Rob, Phil, Simon, and LI Maverick. Since Mav will be in Florida by the time Nit gets back, that's still 5 players at 5 distinct levels to play against. You could get a better idea where you stand. There's really no better way to do it, I mean if you want to continue just playing people online and fantasizing about your skill level, I guess that's cool. However, you have a pack of players with different styles, mains, and skills to test yourself out. There's no excuse to miss out on that especially when we live close enough and half to practically drive by your house to get something together. We can always offer you a ride. We are the coolest bunch of people.

 

[Dark_Rob]

MKF30, you really should come out to some casuals and try your hand against me, Nit, Rob, Phil, Simon, and LI Maverick. Since Mav will be in Florida by the time Nit gets back, that's still 5 players at 5 distinct levels to play against. You could get a better idea where you stand.

Hes made it pretty clear thats not gonna happen.

 

[MRIGOTBASS]

HOWEVER, I'm not saying that all online players are good or can learn online. MRIGOTBASS had only played online and he uses online tactics. He went the tournament and placed 5th. He told me that some of the stuff he does online doesn't work offline, which I knew of and told him would happen. He abuses some aspects of online, just so he can squeeze out a win against his opponent. But, he knows things about the game and isn't that bad of a player. His only experience has come through online play. I'm sure. Since he used tactics that worked online but did not offline. What I'm saying is that other than his online tactics that didn't work so well or at all offline, he got his practice and experience from online play. He wouldn't have gotten 5th or done well at all without his experience. He learned that the crap he abuses online, won't work as well offline.
I'm not standing against offline play. I complain about lag and delay very often in games like UMK3.

I do not visit this site ever, I came across this by googling my name, as because of UMK3 on XBL i have a stalker that is attempting to ruin my Multimillion dollar exotic car dealership and posting crazy bullshit about me and my business online so I have to check every day as I am actually in the middle of a damn lawsuit against "Dr Lipton MD" from XBL. Go search the net for MRIGOTBASS and see what this damn game has caused me.

I do not even play UMK3 any more and quite frankly this type of shit as well as having a scosiopath stalker is the reason why. Juggs how in the hell are you going to sit here and say this crap. I have never 1 time spoke to you about playing at Shocks tournament. Also my man, you are talking about my experience coming from only online play?? Homeboy I am 33 years old you are 20, I have been playing mk since you were in a crib. Also you live in atlanta, you have never met me one time ever so how can you make up this BS you dont know me.

I cannot belive out of anyone saying I use "Online Tactics" you dude ? There is a reason you only pick human smoke and ermac only look at your signature, cause you can spam that teleport bullshit because you have the worst lag out of anyone I have ever seen and you know how to abuse the shit. You use online tactics my dude.

Its all good, I really do not have any problems with you but for gods sake you need to stop this bullshit, this is the same crap about you money matching me offline and not showing up. Just dont sit here and lie about what I told you and how I use online tactics. I do not.

The only regrets I have about the tourney is not getting to play shock and phil in some casuals as I felt that If I did prior I would show my hand. I should have stuck around and played. Maybe some day I will come back to a tournament and play for fun, online play is something I will never do again becuse of what this game is costing me in attorney fees and hassle.

I really would like to play that dude AC's Kabal, as well I think I got some good game for you dude. I would love to come to some more tourneys however owning a large scale business and even know I am in Pittsburgh which isnt that far away from the East Coase its very hard for me to break free.

Also sorry if I ever fucked with anyone on UMK on any scale, even know I was just talking shit, I should not have done it as I now am reaping the bullshit of a legitimate lawsuit to try to protect my business because of XBL. Amazing right!!

Ben
Mr.IGB
Ben

 

[STORMS]

I do not visit this site ever, I came across this by googling my name, as because of UMK3 on XBL i have a stalker that is attempting to ruin my Multimillion dollar exotic car dealership and posting crazy bullshit about me and my business online so I have to check every day as I am actually in the middle of a damn lawsuit against "Dr Lipton MD" from XBL. Go search the net for MRIGOTBASS and see what this damn game has caused me.

I do not even play UMK3 any more and quite frankly this type of shit as well as having a scosiopath stalker is the reason why. Juggs how in the hell are you going to sit here and say this crap. I have never 1 time spoke to you about playing at Shocks tournament. Also my man, you are talking about my experience coming from only online play?? Homeboy I am 33 years old you are 20, I have been playing mk since you were in a crib. Also you live in atlanta, you have never met me one time ever so how can you make up this BS you dont know me.

I cannot belive out of anyone saying I use "Online Tactics" you dude ? There is a reason you only pick human smoke and ermac only look at your signature, cause you can spam that teleport bullshit because you have the worst lag out of anyone I have ever seen and you know how to abuse the shit. You use online tactics my dude.

Its all good, I really do not have any problems with you but for gods sake you need to stop this bullshit, this is the same crap about you money matching me offline and not showing up. Just dont sit here and lie about what I told you and how I use online tactics. I do not.

The only regrets I have about the tourney is not getting to play shock and phil in some casuals as I felt that If I did prior I would show my hand. I should have stuck around and played. Maybe some day I will come back to a tournament and play for fun, online play is something I will never do again becuse of what this game is costing me in attorney fees and hassle.

I really would like to play that dude AC's Kabal, as well I think I got some good game for you dude. I would love to come to some more tourneys however owning a large scale business and even know I am in Pittsburgh which isnt that far away from the East Coase its very hard for me to break free.

Also sorry if I ever fucked with anyone on UMK on any scale, even know I was just talking shit, I should not have done it as I now am reaping the bullshit of a legitimate lawsuit to try to protect my business because of XBL. Amazing right!!

Ben
Mr.IGB
Ben

I don't know you, just heard of you, but Welcome to the site. Hope this works out for you... sounds like a total pain in the dick to deal with.

 

[MRIGOTBASS]

Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy!
And yet you come here talking trash to Juggs, saying that you didn't previously, and you use the exact same challenge too.

That sucks for you man. In all seriousness, I wouldn't wish your situation on anyone, and I hope it works out in your favor. Just learn from your mistakes, because they are the reason that guy is trying to mess with you to begin with. Good luck.

I wasnt trash talking, just merly stating that what he is saying is a lie. Do you really think me and juggs sat down and had this breakout civil conversation about my mk experiences. I mean Sciess you know that didnt occur. Just dont quote me you know what I am saying.

Sciess I also have no ill will towards you either dude. Fact remains that honestly I didnt start playing this game on XBL to have problems, it kind of just worked out like that after Gokuren decided to make a video of me talking shit, so I figured I would let him have it in return. I should not have ever made a single video of anyone. I really let it get out of hand. This is why I took down any videos that I made and dont play anymore.

I am not a gamer, in fact this is the only game I owned. I actually ran over my xbox with a Hummer so I could force myself never to play again after this BS started cropping up on the net. I am actually getting stalked every single day by a jewish hairdresser from Hanover PA over a video game beacause he could not beat my Kabal. To me its just not worth spending double digit thousands of dollars to get an injunction in the Court of Common Pleas on the General Docket to stop this guy. Biggest mistake in the world to make my gammer tag MRIGOTBASS.

At any rate, like I said I dont have any issues with any of you guys, just take my advice be very careful online because some people have nothing to lose and will do anything because of a game.

Ben

 

[MRIGOTBASS]

Yea total pain is correct. Try to explain to a customer why there are 20+ posts on the internet about making advances toward underage males on xbl as well as selling garbage cars. Fortunatly the guy wasnt the smartest and left a huge evidence trail, and now is facing 7 causes of action of Libel as well as 1 cause of action of Tortious interference with prospective business relations and 1 cause of False Light - Invasion of privacy. My corporation has a pending case of over $200K with this moron. All of this over a video game.

I cant stress enough to people you need to protect your real identity online as I could never imagine something like this could happen.

 

[STORMS]

Yea total pain is correct. Try to explain to a customer why there are 20+ posts on the internet about making advances toward underage males on xbl as well as selling garbage cars. Fortunatly the guy wasnt the smartest and left a huge evidence trail, and now is facing 7 causes of action of Libel as well as 1 cause of action of Tortious interference with prospective business relations and 1 cause of False Light - Invasion of privacy. My corporation has a pending case of over $200K with this moron. All of this over a video game.

I cant stress enough to people you need to protect your real identity online as I could never imagine something like this could happen.

This could happen through a large number of other possibilities as well though. You can't blame the game. It's just unfortunate that some assholes have nothing better to do than fuck with other people's lives and investments.

When I was younger and didn't pay for my own way, sure, what the fuck did I care? But I had the sense enough not to do anything to this extent.

Anyway, on a better note I hope you stick around on the site for whatever it's worth. :top:

Good luck, dude.

 

[REO]

wasnt going to reply to this thread until i saw my name mentioned so i jsut want to get some things out of the way...

1. i never said i was better than shock or implied it, not even sure how that became the conclusion. iirc he streaked me pretty bad with half of the roster, so it wouldnt even make sense for me to think i was better in the first place for just a few meaningless wins.

2. juggs i get what youre saying, but if i start attending tourneys and going to casual wouldnt that make me an offline player then?

3. mkf im like 10x worse on xbox live. first of all, i cant stand the 360 dpad and cant even do basic shit like aa spin with kabal, go invisible with robo smoke, instant air fain w/ kitana, etc. its pretty embarassing. im not making excuses just being real. im way more comfortable on a ps3 controller and can do things like aa spin offline no prob.

4. i didnt really quit umk3. im just never touching that game online again. let me tell you why, i played some dudes nightwolf that was doing rediculous shit. first of all, his jump kicks were impossible to aahp or aahk w/e. he could basically jump all over me back and fourth coupled with the delay it was a mess. he would lock me in place with that damn ram move over and over, i know for a fact that move offline does not give +99 frames of adv on block. and to top it off he was invincible when jabbing. i couldnt do anything to counter his jabs, it was like he mastered the ultimate lag tactics or some shit. anyway my dumbass kept playing him over and over because i was so obssessed with wanting to win when i shouldve just left from the beginning. is it me or is nihgtwolf the ultimate lag character? doesnt matter now cuz im done.

 

[AC1984]

Hey Bass, welcome.... I would love to play against you as well....Summer Jam is right around the corner ( 14 and 15 of August) Feel more than invited. I live in Philly and since Winter Brawl in February i didnt miss and event with UMK3.

 

[MRIGOTBASS]

Hey Bass, welcome.... I would love to play against you as well....Summer Jam is right around the corner ( 14 and 15 of August) Feel more than invited. I live in Philly and since Winter Brawl in February i didnt miss and event with UMK3.

Where is that located at? Its just really hard for me to leave as I own and run a full scale dealership in Pittsburgh. Is it in Philly? I grew up out there and have some Fam in South Jerz so maybe I could make it happen. I saw your kabal on that streaming video of that tourney in NY it does look sick. I have a pretty sick kabal as well, it would be fun.

Let me know

 

[AC1984]

Yes It is in Philadelphia, and that would be great...Mostly i play vital matches against Smoke and rarely Kabal...so it should be hell of a fun.

 

[STORMS]

Where is that located at? Its just really hard for me to leave as I own and run a full scale dealership in Pittsburgh. Is it in Philly? I grew up out there and have some Fam in South Jerz so maybe I could make it happen. I saw your kabal on that streaming video of that tourney in NY it does look sick. I have a pretty sick kabal as well, it would be fun.

Let me know

Go here, bro: http://mortalkombatempires.com/forum/showthread.php?914-GVN-Summer-Jam-August-14th-and-15th-Philadelphia-PA!

 

[Tim Static]

In MK some of the worst characters and mid-tier can be god tier in lag. Back when the only available option for online play was server play on mame I used to play someone who thought that he was good because I would have trouble beating him. All he used to do was teleport with Scorpion and do the kick combo and break it at random times and restart it, and it was nearly impossible for me to escape it. Then when I did escape it, all he had to do was teleport. It was very frustrating, and he didn't deserve a single win.

Nightwolf is very balanced character in terms of tactics. He can turtle, and of course he can be very aggressive and has high priority normals. High priority jk's in lag are just disgusting, especially when it is your only solid opportunity with characters like nw and kabal. His shoulder can have the same properties as the fuckin bs scorpion lag tactics that I explained above, and his combo just makes more opportunities.

It's good to hear that you are still playing, but I think it is healthy to get some online practice with respectable players that wouldn't abuse that type of shit unless it was as a joke. The only problem is that a lot of online players don't even know they are using lag tactics.

In netplay, I think Nightwolf is #1, followed by Robo Homo @ #2.

 

[MRIGOTBASS]

Go here, bro: http://mortalkombatempires.com/forum/showthread.php?914-GVN-Summer-Jam-August-14th-and-15th-Philadelphia-PA!

I will see what I can do. I went to that one they had in November. I will be honest I had a good time, however dude that room has THE WORST SMELL I have ever smelled in my life. I cannot stress that enough. I mean riviling gym lockerooms after football games. I spent the next week sicker than I have been in my life, the shit put me out.

I will see what I can do, I need to play a few hours of casuals with people as I am 100% not used to the timing, however I learn very fast. I can gaurentee there is NOBODY that plays Kabal like me, NOBODY. I don't know about AAhp's or frame rates I just have raw old school skills. Very unorthodox, but bannanas as well. I will see if I can get away from here as my days usually consist of Bed to Work and back to Bed. I will make an attempt not to schedule any cars getting picked up that weekend.

I will let you guys know.

IGB

 

[Dark_Rob]

wasnt going to reply to this thread until i saw my name mentioned so i jsut want to get some things out of the way...

1. i never said i was better than shock or implied it, not even sure how that became the conclusion. iirc he streaked me pretty bad with half of the roster, so it wouldnt even make sense for me to think i was better in the first place for just a few meaningless wins.

2. juggs i get what youre saying, but if i start attending tourneys and going to casual wouldnt that make me an offline player then?

3. mkf im like 10x worse on xbox live. first of all, i cant stand the 360 dpad and cant even do basic shit like aa spin with kabal, go invisible with robo smoke, instant air fain w/ kitana, etc. its pretty embarassing. im not making excuses just being real. im way more comfortable on a ps3 controller and can do things like aa spin offline no prob.

4. i didnt really quit umk3. im just never touching that game online again. let me tell you why, i played some dudes nightwolf that was doing rediculous shit. first of all, his jump kicks were impossible to aahp or aahk w/e. he could basically jump all over me back and fourth coupled with the delay it was a mess. he would lock me in place with that damn ram move over and over, i know for a fact that move offline does not give +99 frames of adv on block. and to top it off he was invincible when jabbing. i couldnt do anything to counter his jabs, it was like he mastered the ultimate lag tactics or some shit. anyway my dumbass kept playing him over and over because i was so obssessed with wanting to win when i shouldve just left from the beginning. is it me or is nihgtwolf the ultimate lag character? doesnt matter now cuz im done.

Reo, dude, please dont let some online garbage ruin this game for you. Phil, Shock, AC1984 and Li Maverick get together at my house all the time to play and your always welcome to come dude. Your a really good player and the UMK3 scene could really use you in our ranks. UMK3 has been doing some great things lately. Weve had winner/losers/grand finals LIVE streamed at East coast throwdown 2 and Road to EVO. And Tim and Ghaleon got it streamed at Lake Erie Summer slam.
You could be part of all this to, we need all the good players we can get. The next tourney is at GVN Summer Jam in Philly. Phil and I will be driving down there Sunday morning August 15th. Your more than welcome to hitch a ride with us.
Fuck online bro. Online is garbage. I NEVER play online, I have no reason to with so many top players nearby. You have no reason to either. Shock was impressed with you man, and that means youve got talent. Dont let it go to waste because online is trash.

 

[MKF30]

Hes made it pretty clear thats not gonna happen.

I have? lol I never said that.

Never say never

REO, dude I don't doubt you lol same here man...everyone knows the 360 pad sucks I have to use a madcatz and still I feel I can't play to my full potential that I would on say a DS pad or SNES one...but I can definitely play a hell of a lot better on that madcatz as oppose to a 360 pad or a stick for sure lol. At any rate, perhaps sometime in the future we can play a few MK's offline

 

[AC1984]

Bass...Summer Jam is the whole weekend but UMK3 is gonna be played in Sunday, so that means that Saturday will be most likely all day casuals.

P.S. Reo, man i would love to meet you and play you offline.

 

[STORMS]

I have? lol I never said that.

Never say never

Talk is cheap, fucker! Show or stfu!

 

[MKF30]

lol ^ Stormy is funny Hey dude i just realized aren't you the son of ThunderGod Raiden and Stormette from MKU?

 

[Dark_Rob]

I have? lol I never said that.

Never say never

I truly hope so dude. We can use all the players we can get. We are trying to make UMK3 as big as we possibly can. And the more players we can get to come to tourneys and casuals the better and faster the scene will develope. I know youve said you have other things going on in your life, and that you dont always have money and what not. But dude money is not a nessecity. Our crew help each other out. We are much more interested in getting players to the tournaments. Who pays for gas or tolls or food isnt really important. It always gets handled. We look out for each other. No one will run out of gas or go hungry or anything.
The collective effort is what makes it happen and weve got that on lock. What we really need is for players like you to show up and play. This is the biggest thing you could ever do to help the UMK3 scene. Im not singleing you out. I say this to all UMK3 players in the LI/NY/NJ area. If you need a ride we can make it happen. Short on money? Doesnt matter, we will still make it happen. The scene is the most important thing, not the individual. Except to the extent of what every individual contributes to the collective whole.
I really hope you decide to give this a try one day man, cuz I know you'll get addicted and never want to stop.

 

[9.95]

wasnt going to reply to this thread until i saw my name mentioned so i jsut want to get some things out of the way...

1. i never said i was better than shock or implied it, not even sure how that became the conclusion. iirc he streaked me pretty bad with half of the roster, so it wouldnt even make sense for me to think i was better in the first place for just a few meaningless wins.

2. juggs i get what youre saying, but if i start attending tourneys and going to casual wouldnt that make me an offline player then?

3. mkf im like 10x worse on xbox live. first of all, i cant stand the 360 dpad and cant even do basic shit like aa spin with kabal, go invisible with robo smoke, instant air fain w/ kitana, etc. its pretty embarassing. im not making excuses just being real. im way more comfortable on a ps3 controller and can do things like aa spin offline no prob.

4. i didnt really quit umk3. im just never touching that game online again. let me tell you why, i played some dudes nightwolf that was doing rediculous shit. first of all, his jump kicks were impossible to aahp or aahk w/e. he could basically jump all over me back and fourth coupled with the delay it was a mess. he would lock me in place with that damn ram move over and over, i know for a fact that move offline does not give +99 frames of adv on block. and to top it off he was invincible when jabbing. i couldnt do anything to counter his jabs, it was like he mastered the ultimate lag tactics or some shit. anyway my dumbass kept playing him over and over because i was so obssessed with wanting to win when i shouldve just left from the beginning. is it me or is nihgtwolf the ultimate lag character? doesnt matter now cuz im done.

REO, great to see you back... Just let me clarify... when I brought your name up, it was only to make a point that online only tends to cause alot of people to develop a very overinflated sense of skill... and that if(and that's a big if) a person has the wrong mindset, they can walk away from a casual set with someone like Shock and be like, "Well, I beat Shock, there's nothing left to do.. I'm the man". I know you didn't, and I never got that impression from you... my point was to say that while online play may have some(if very little) usefulness, then one of the downfalls to that usefulness is that it can cause people to develop that false sense of skill. Again, I, as well as Shock, Rob, Aure, and Logik all know that you're legit and you have serious game(I HATE your Liu Kang...).

You are, most definitely welcome to come to Summer Jam with us... I'll keep a space in my car ready for you.

 

[9.95]

I truly hope so dude. We can use all the players we can get. We are trying to make UMK3 as big as we possibly can. And the more players we can get to come to tourneys and casuals the better and faster the scene will develope. I know youve said you have other things going on in your life, and that you dont always have money and what not. But dude money is not a nessecity. Our crew help each other out. We are much more interested in getting players to the tournaments. Who pays for gas or tolls or food isnt really important. It always gets handled. We look out for each other. No one will run out of gas or go hungry or anything.
The collective effort is what makes it happen and weve got that on lock. What we really need is for players like you to show up and play. This is the biggest thing you could ever do to help the UMK3 scene. Im not singleing you out. I say this to all UMK3 players in the LI/NY/NJ area. If you need a ride we can make it happen. Short on money? Doesnt matter, we will still make it happen. The scene is the most important thing, not the individual. Except to the extent of what every individual contributes to the collective whole.
I really hope you decide to give this a try one day man, cuz I know you'll get addicted and never want to stop.

QFT... Pete... you're always invited.. you know that, just call me.

 

[STORMS]

lol ^ Stormy is funny Hey dude i just realized aren't you the son of ThunderGod Raiden and Stormette from MKU?

Ew. No, you must have me mistaken for one of my fans.


MKF, come to Summer Jam, dude! DO IT!!!

 

[AC1984]

"Talk is cheap, fucker! Show or stfu! "

AMEN!!!