Who is Supergirl's worst match-up?

[Juggs]

Everyone was right about what? You do realize she really was one of the worst characters in the game before her buffs right? She just had a bunch of tools but essentially was high risk, low reward. She's in a good spot now so there's no need for reiteration.

I don't know about "one of the worst characters", but she definitely couldn't compete in tournaments. The crazy thing is she just needed a slight buff and that's what she got. Are people really suggesting B123 should go back to be being unsafe? She didn't get a single top 8 pre-patch, there's a reason for that. Now she can compete that she got buffs and some other characters got nerfed. People still don't really grasp the MU. When I watch Theo play he gets away with so much stuff because hardly anyone was playing a high level SG in tournament.

She's a great character but not overpowered. Yeah she doesn't have a lot of losing MU's but she does have a lot of even MU's, and several winning MU's. Based on that she's most likely a top 5 character. But being top 5 in post patch INJ2 isn't as good as it was pre-patch. Way more characters can compete with the top tier now.

 

[STB Shujinkydink]

I think she loses to green arrow. Not badly, just 6-4. can be an annoying MU. Havent played too many aquamen lately but when i did I never had too much trouble. might be playing the wrong ones. I usually just use firestorm for that anyway lol

 

[JustFrames]

Who even beats Supergirl?Every single person I run into online seems to have Supergirl for their mains or secondary; it's getting obnoxious.

super girl is good, we all know that. but she isn't god. i think think most of the cast can go even with her assuming skill is equal. the thing to keep in mind when playing against her is not letting her get away with pressure that isnt real. B1 is -9 on block, B12 -11, and B123 is -4. her only +on block string is 113... granted mixing her options up is what makes these things harder to punish but you need to poke and stop her from using pressure she doesnt actually have. letting just about any character play there own game is hard to beat but i think blocking low, using your characters tools to punish right, and being patient will improve your odds against most SG's. thats just my opinion though.

 

[myri]

super girl is good, we all know that. but she isn't god. i think think most of the cast can go even with her assuming skill is equal. the thing to keep in mind when playing against her is not letting her get away with pressure that isnt real. B1 is -9 on block, B12 -11, and B123 is -4. her only +on block string is 113... granted mixing her options up is what makes these things harder to punish but you need to poke and stop her from using pressure she doesnt actually have. letting just about any character play there own game is hard to beat but i think blocking low, using your characters tools to punish right, and being patient will improve your odds against most SG's. thats just my opinion though.

This post is so damn on point.

 

[ShArp]

Lm



Lmao if you cant see how ridiculous this character is having every tool in the game and no losing match ups im done this conversation is over

And how exactly you proved us otherwise? Just posted a typical scrub rant "she's broken hurr durr" without giving a single argument to back up your ass, lmfao.

You are done with conversation that doesn't even define what "conversation" is in the first place.

 

[ShArp]

super girl is good, we all know that. but she isn't god. i think think most of the cast can go even with her assuming skill is equal. the thing to keep in mind when playing against her is not letting her get away with pressure that isnt real. B1 is -9 on block, B12 -11, and B123 is -4. her only +on block string is 113... granted mixing her options up is what makes these things harder to punish but you need to poke and stop her from using pressure she doesnt actually have. letting just about any character play there own game is hard to beat but i think blocking low, using your characters tools to punish right, and being patient will improve your odds against most SG's. thats just my opinion though.

Look - someone with an actual sense.
That being said her 112 string thats +3 on block, starts with a high. I can't count the times when playing against good players, who actually know the MU and take their time in the lab with her, low profiled/punished/poked the shit out of me when I was going for 112 after jp1/crossups etc. Thats how they force you to go for the mid strings (which all of them are negative on block) so that you dont end up doing her only plus string. There are so many ways to deal with her, interupt her "pressure" yall just have to take your lazzy asses to the lab and level the f up. Or if you dont - then shut the f up.

 

[Zoidberg747]

She doesn't lose to Aquaman any more. She has no reason to ever approach him as trait punishes FTD. She can contest a lot of his pressure with b1. If she knocks him down he still has to deal with her ambiguous crossups. I could maybe see it being 5-5 but not in his favor.

 

[SaSSolino]

Everyone was right about what? You do realize she really was one of the worst characters in the game before her buffs right? She just had a bunch of tools but essentially was high risk, low reward. She's in a good spot now so there's no need for reiteration.

Dude I like you, but you yourself made a MU chart showing that she has 1 bad MU and 11 good ones, 3 of which are 7-3 hard counters.

Now you can't tell me that she is in a "good spot", unless you are the Supergirl player of course.

Nah, too anime for me.

XD

I thought you didn't care about me! I always knew you were a softie after all.

But to clearify, the pictures you've taken are from the card game, not the fighting game itself. The game itself feels more like a Street Fighter, which as far as I know is not considered an anime fighter.

 

[Justfitz]

What always gets me killed in the supergirl MU is the backwards walk speed. I often fail to respect how fast it truly is, and that's probably what gets me into more trouble than anything lol. S

She can go from crazy high powered 50/50 offense, back to a whiff punishing defensive style, and then back again in a flash. Oh, and throw in some zoning for good measure, and its easy to see why she a difficult MU post patch.

Her weak wake up game seems to be her major weakness right now.

 

[JustFrames]

What always gets me killed in the supergirl MU is the backwards walk speed. I often fail to respect how fast it truly is, and that's probably what gets me into more trouble than anything lol. S

She can go from crazy high powered 50/50 offense, back to a whiff punishing defensive style, and then back again in a flash. Oh, and throw in some zoning for good measure, and its easy to see why she a difficult MU post patch.

Her weak wake up game seems to be her major weakness right now.

I feel you man but to be fair, she doesnt have a strong 50/50 game. she has no overhead starters, and unless she burns meter, her B2, 1+3 move is only an over head on the second hit...and super negative on block. She can do jump in 1 or 2 then cancel that into flight of course which can be annoying but you can anti air that with at least a D2 from most characters after you block the jump in move...or if you can react in time you can stuff that shit all together.
All that said she does have a lot of tools at her disposal, and a fast walk speed with good air mobility but remember, her shit isnt as free as it seems and once you find your characters best punishes for the YoLo moves then youll stand a better chance. Of course this only matters if the players are equally skilled. OOOH and if you can knock her down and bait out her wake up DP then you can smoke her...between that and a good meaty set up the ball will be in your court

 

[Justfitz]

I feel you man but to be fair, she doesnt have a strong 50/50 game. she has no overhead starters, and unless she burns meter, her B2, 1+3 move is only an over head on the second hit...and super negative on block. She can do jump in 1 or 2 then cancel that into flight of course which can be annoying but you can anti air that with at least a D2 from most characters after you block the jump in move...or if you can react in time you can stuff that shit all together.
All that said she does have a lot of tools at her disposal, and a fast walk speed with good air mobility but remember, her shit isnt as free as it seems and once you find your characters best punishes for the YoLo moves then youll stand a better chance. Of course this only matters if the players are equally skilled. OOOH and if you can knock her down and bait out her wake up DP then you can smoke her...between that and a good meaty set up the ball will be in your court

I typically don't have big problems with most of the situations you just listed. Like I said, it's actually her backwards walk speed that usually gets my ass. I really need to learn to give it the respect it deserves. Maybe I should mix in some more throws after the b123 string? Would that help me? Cause sometimes I get nervous about making a move after that string.. sadly..

 

[LaidbackOne]

Dude I like you, but you yourself made a MU chart showing that she has 1 bad MU and 11 good ones, 3 of which are 7-3 hard counters.

Now you can't tell me that she is in a "good spot", unless you are the Supergirl player of course.



I thought you didn't care about me! I always knew you were a softie after all.

But to clearify, the pictures you've taken are from the card game, not the fighting game itself. The game itself feels more like a Street Fighter, which as far as I know is not considered an anime fighter.

Its all good, just having a laugh. Its not my business what type of 'anime' you like or not.

 

[doomfarmer]

Everyone was right about what? You do realize she really was one of the worst characters in the game before her buffs right? She just had a bunch of tools but essentially was high risk, low reward. She's in a good spot now so there's no need for reiteration.

I'm saying when the patch hit most people were saying she's top 10 and the supergirl community was like LMAO NO WAY DEEDS. Now that some time has past I think a lot of supergirl players will agree she's top 10 if not top 5. I'm saying it's good to see less downplaying.

Why are you supergirl players so defensive man lol. Who is saying she needs nerfs or she's OP? I've said she is a top character and that she's the new go-to pocket. Where have I said she needs nerfs or she was godlike prepatch? Goddamn. Supergirl players always get so butthurt and lash out and put words in peoples mouths. For what? The fuck ya'll so insecure about, damn.

 

[Rude]

I read all three pages and no one named a DEFINITIVE bad match up for Supergirl. Just a lot of maybe.

Who definitively 6-4s and 7-3s her?

 

[ShArp]

I read all three pages and no one named a DEFINITIVE bad match up for Supergirl. Just a lot of maybe.

Who definitively 6-4s and 7-3s her?

Powergirl

 

[Rude]

Powergirl

And they say there aren't fucking idiots on this site anymore.

Keep proving them wrong, guy!

 

[SaucyD0ge]

I'm saying when the patch hit most people were saying she's top 10 and the supergirl community was like LMAO NO WAY DEEDS. Now that some time has past I think a lot of supergirl players will agree she's top 10 if not top 5. I'm saying it's good to see less downplaying.

Why are you supergirl players so defensive man lol. Who is saying she needs nerfs or she's OP? I've said she is a top character and that she's the new go-to pocket. Where have I said she needs nerfs or she was godlike prepatch? Goddamn. Supergirl players always get so butthurt and lash out and put words in peoples mouths. For what? The fuck ya'll so insecure about, damn.

I think they want to achieve downplay singularity and buff mb teleport to be plus on block...

 

[SaucyD0ge]

Also if anyone is still not getting the point:if you have no losing mus, that is a strength in itself.
Add in the advantageous mus and you have a top tier character.

 

[ShArp]

And they say there aren't fucking idiots on this site anymore.

Keep proving them wrong, guy!

Keep barking

 

[Juggs]

I think they want to achieve downplay singularity and buff mb teleport to be plus on block...

Also if anyone is still not getting the point:if you have no losing mus, that is a strength in itself.
Add in the advantageous mus and you have a top tier character.

Not a single SG player wants more buffs, what are you talking about. Everyone agrees she's a strong top tier character now, just not overpowered aka doesn't warrant a nerf.

 

[SM StarGazer]

She has no true losing MU's. characters with 6f d1's can be a problem but she doesn't lose to them outright.

and considering how so many characters have stupidly obvious weakness Supergirl is a character meant to be annoying. She is a discount Superman.

Now:

Aquaman, Superman, Batman, GreenArrow, Catwomen, Great Deadshots, Scarecrow, Great Flash's, and Green Lantern are just a few characters that can compete with Supergirl at the highest of levels. Nothing wrong with that but she also doesn't outright lose. It's even with advantage going to the smarter and more patience Character. Also no other character can sit mid or full screen and be a threat like Supergirl and that due to one of the most obvious moves in the game(Teleport).

 

[Rude]

She has no true losing MU's. characters with 6f d1's can be a problem but she doesn't lose to them outright.

and considering how so many characters have stupidly obvious weakness Supergirl is a character meant to be annoying. She is a discount Superman.

Now:

Aquaman, Superman, Batman, GreenArrow, Catwomen, Great Deadshots, Scarecrow, Great Flash's, and Green Lantern are just a few characters that can compete with Supergirl at the highest of levels. Nothing wrong with that but she also doesn't outright lose. It's even with advantage going to the smarter and more patience Character. Also no other character can sit mid or full screen and be a threat like Supergirl and that due to one of the most obvious moves in the game(Teleport).

So are you saying she has no losing match ups? Asking for clarification.

 

[Juggs]

So are you saying she has no losing match ups? Asking for clarification.

It's all opinions man. Some believe she has no losing matchups, some believe she has a few (GA, BA, AM, etc). There's no real objective answer, but I will say that she probably has the least amount of losing MU's in the game.

 

[Rude]

It's all opinions man. Some believe she has no losing matchups, some believe she has a few (GA, BA, AM, etc). There's no real objective answer, but I will say that she probably has the least amount of losing MU's in the game.

That doesn't make any sense.

 

[Juggs]

That doesn't make any sense.

What doesn't make sense? MU numbers and tier lists are subjective. IMO she has the least losing MU's, some may agree or disagree. What are you not understanding?