Street Fighter V General Discussion

[The Slaj Jazz]

Don't let me ruin the current argument guys but on a random note the xbone s controller is pretty legit

 

[Kroaken]

There are definitely people out there good enough to optimize sfv juri. Please don't act like there aren't.

Also, fill me in on this ryu flowchart. I'd like to know what I'm missing.

Step 1: Throw fireball.
Did they jump? DP. Proceed to step 2.
No? Repeat step 1.

Step 2: Dash up axe kick.
Did it hit? Do a truckload of damage.
No? Don't bother hit confirming. End in fireball. Return to step 1.

Kappa.

 

[JJvercetti]

I love new character week, easy FM.

 

[Eddy Wang]

So, played a lot of SFV new patch today, got to see lord Akumer, damn he looks fat as fuck and that lion look damn, seeing in game its another thing.

Now to the main stuff.
I see a lot of ppl saying game got slower, i don't think so, in fact, it looks pretty much the same, aside that it feels like i can answer to things that was pretty hard to react to in first place, Input Lag has probably been reduced?

Ken is still fucking alive, everything i used before i still can used it now, and the damage is still big as hell, on top of that his new lion breaker into thunder kick into vt DP~CA does very good damage.
Still has a 3f jab combo starter, and in counters, his neutral still feels awesome
Who said ken is dead? lol

Ibuki got some positive stuff, but there is a lot to work with, since i didn't played her much in S1 due most of her issues, coplin out with the changes were kinda dificult and still lost lots of damage potential since i was kinda getting confused on some things, she is complicated as hell to learn and surely will take some time to lab all that info i just gathered.

for starters, while st.mk is great, sometimes due its range it won't connect st.mp, so this is going to be a issue for new comers in patch, needs to switch it up for cr.mp which has much more range and hits easily.
There is a few things here and there, like linking st.mp into st.mk into st.lk, this needs to be a muscle memory,

glide setups, i used it more to escape shit and to apply some things that still need to be looked at internally.
new ex kunai hoju is useless.

Ibuki builds much meter now, and there is a range where her ex Raida is so dangerous against projectiles now, need to come up with some stuff for the knockdown or resets.

Fuck dahlsim.

 

[buyacushun]

No one listen to @FL Rushdown about character choices. He just wants to keep all the anti air jabs for himself. I'm on to you.

It's that early stage when I think Juri might be top tier again. She may just be too difficult to be good in this game

SFV is it's own franchise.

Yeah I have not a clue what "too difficult to be good" means. Whatever difficulty you think she has isn't 1f links or some odd stance shit or EWGF. The hardest thing she has is slight resource management.

If that last statement is about SFV being so different from SF4, that's kind of Street fighter's thing. Every sequel been very different.

 

[ILuvFightGames]

I figured as much. I was gonna be like ehhh cus I really have no interest in Ryu at all so it was gonna suck so bad having to use him. Thank u both !

Ryu's a bum. Cammy should serve as a fine character to learn the game with. Just make sure you pick up that gdlk battle outfit and you're set.

Step 1: Throw fireball.
Did they jump? DP. Proceed to step 2.
No? Repeat step 1.

Step 2: Dash up axe kick.
Did it hit? Do a truckload of damage.
No? Don't bother hit confirming. End in fireball. Return to step 1.

Kappa.

Disrespecting Ryu?
@lookgirlitsteejay @Kroaken @Hendrixson
I'm coming for all of you...

 

[JJvercetti]

Disrespecting Ryu?
@lookgirlitsteejay @Kroaken @Hendrixson
I'm coming for all of you...

How big is your hit list?

 

[ILuvFightGames]

How big is your hit list?

EVERYONE in this thread.
It has begun, ima get y'all one by one.

 

[JJvercetti]

HAHA Akuma teleporting, nah mate hold this super.

EDIT: Vid coming soon.

 

[buyacushun]

HAHA Akuma teleporting, nah mate hold this super.

So you still doing the Zangief thing? How you liking season 2?

 

[@MylesWright_]

There are definitely people out there good enough to optimize sfv juri. Please don't act like there aren't.

But will they put the time into Juri when there's better characters that require less effort

@MylesWright_

You love thinking whoever you use stinks so that whenever you lose, you can just blame the matchup.

Juri was the worst character in S1 :s

Yeah I have not a clue what "too difficult to be good" means. Whatever difficulty you think she has isn't 1f links or some odd stance shit or EWGF. The hardest thing she has is slight resource management.

It's difficult by SFVs general spoonfed standards.

Manually timing meaties, confirming off single hits bur into store on block, getting a counter-hit and seeing whether they're standing so you can go into the target combo or they're crouching because then you can get axe kick after st.mp etc

Everything is just extra with Juri for no reason. I shouldn't have to think this much

 

[NHDR]

Ryu is a flowchart character? Might as well say every character in every fighter is, then.

SF2? Spam fireballs
SFIV? cr. jab x 200
SFxT? LMHLMHLMHLMH x 200
KOF14? cr. A xx max x 200
KI? Mash openers into herp derp ultra

There, I just boiled down a bunch of fighting games into a flowchart.

 

[JJvercetti]

So you still doing the Zangief thing? How you liking season 2?

Its getting there, so much easier to keep people in the corner when you get them there. Still working out some ticks and links etc.

 

[LiangHuBBB]

made this final vid of this year today, merry christmas & all the best wishes for 2017 @ everyone

 

[buyacushun]

But will they put the time into Juri when there's better characters that require less effort




Juri was the worst character in S1 :s




It's difficult by SFVs general spoonfed standards.

Manually timing meaties, confirming off single hits bur into store on block, getting a counter-hit and seeing whether they're standing so you can go into the target combo or they're crouching because then you can get axe kick after st.mp etc

Everything is just extra with Juri for no reason. I shouldn't have to think this much

What single hit confirms are you trying besides st.HP from a forward throw?

She got MP into MK on normal hit now.

She's got a bunch of counter hit shit.

Save the TC for shit like stun combos and throw bait.

 

[Rip Torn]

So, played a lot of SFV new patch today, got to see lord Akumer, damn he looks fat as fuck and that lion look damn, seeing in game its another thing.

Now to the main stuff.
I see a lot of ppl saying game got slower, i don't think so, in fact, it looks pretty much the same, aside that it feels like i can answer to things that was pretty hard to react to in first place, Input Lag has probably been reduced?

Ken is still fucking alive, everything i used before i still can used it now, and the damage is still big as hell, on top of that his new lion breaker into thunder kick into vt DP~CA does very good damage.
Still has a 3f jab combo starter, and in counters, his neutral still feels awesome
Who said ken is dead? lol

For the last time, Ken does not have a 3f jab combo starter! Stop saying that!

The game is the same speed, same input lag. Some moves have more frames while others are a little faster.

 

[Kroaken]

Ryu is a flowchart character? Might as well say every character in every fighter is, then.

SF2? Spam fireballs
SFIV? cr. jab x 200
SFxT? LMHLMHLMHLMH x 200
KOF14? cr. A xx max x 200
KI? Mash openers into herp derp ultra

There, I just boiled down a bunch of fighting games into a flowchart.

wut r u some bronze scrub

 

[Kroaken]

I see a lot of ppl saying game got slower, i don't think so, in fact, it looks pretty much the same, aside that it feels like i can answer to things that was pretty hard to react to in first place, Input Lag has probably been reduced?

Most everyone had frames added onto their buttons. Even if they stayed the same on hit/block. This is probably a lot of it.

 

[@MylesWright_]

What single hit confirms are you trying besides st.HP from a forward throw?

She got MP into MK on normal hit now.

She's got a bunch of counter hit shit.

Save the TC for shit like stun combos and throw bait.

Confirming off cr.mk and cr.mp.

I'm looking at mastery level of the character when it's 3/4 days into the patch which is as ridiculous as Rushdown saying R.Mika was an honest character

 

[GAV]

Juri was the worst character in S1 :s

...and you picked her. Gee, I wonder why that is...

...its because you're a "Low Tier Hero."

 

[@MylesWright_]

...and you picked her. Gee, I wonder why that is...

...its because you're a "Low Tier Hero."

This is a revelation. I thought I picked her because I liked the character and used her SFxT

 

[FL Rushdown]

This is a revelation. I thought I picked her because I liked the character and used her SFxT

Ok and if that's your criteria for picking a character why do you care if she isn't top tier? She's good enough that 99.9% of players could play her in 99.9% of situations and not lose specifically because of the character. So if you like her, play her.

 

[Scott The Scot]

tfw your alt account overtakes your main account in LP

God damnit what waste of time lol.

 

[EntropicByDesign]

Ryu absolutely could flow chart and take wins. Can he flowchart vs good players who understand the game? No, not really, only Chun and Mika and Ken (off the top of my head) could flowchart universally and still be effective..

But Ryu absolutely could flowchart. Just because YOU played respectfully and with thought, didn't mean everyone did and it further doesn't mean that Ryu didn't get mileage out of it at low to intermediate levels.

 

[FL Rushdown]

Ryu absolutely could flow chart and take wins. Can he flowchart vs good players who understand the game? No, not really, only Chun and Mika and Ken (off the top of my head) could flowchart universally and still be effective..

But Ryu absolutely could flowchart. Just because YOU played respectfully and with thought, didn't mean everyone did and it further doesn't mean that Ryu didn't get mileage out of it at low to intermediate levels.

No he can't lol. Even mikas flowchart was full of readable gaps. You could still do it with Mika it was just bad. Ryu on the other hand definitely doesn't have a flowchart. If you think he does I'd like you to post it.