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New Balance Patch Podcast featuring m2dave, P2W, REO, and Slips

Rude

Rude

You will serve me in The Netherrealm
Tweedy said:
Yeah but isn't that essentially a 50/50?

It's weird that people complain about overheads and lows, when a lot of mind games in fighting games just end up being 50/50s.

What if life is just a 50/50?
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I think it can be easier to scout out depending on things like life lead, habits, etc.

It's definitely a read, but I'm okay with it. And yeah, there are a lot of situations that involve guessing in fighting games that people never acknowledge are guesses, but let's complain about OH/Low starters some more, I guess.
 
Rude

Rude

You will serve me in The Netherrealm
hkriderz said:
Yea it does and it does create an interesting meta game I agree. But that's a handful of the cast who have launching armor. Some other characters will be completely disrespected because who would take their armor seriously?

For example, if you don't count backdashing, tarkatans rekkas could give two shits about cyraxs teleport.

I'm just saying putting a gap in is not the universal answer to f134 IMO. It just skews the favor to launching armor characters
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It's true that not every character benefits the same, but that's apart of balance. Not everyone gets the same reward for the same situation, but usually have something to make up for it.
 
hkriderz

hkriderz

Lin Kuei Scum, yellow robot enthusiast
Tweedy said:
Yeah but isn't that essentially a 50/50?

It's weird that people complain about overheads and lows, when a lot of mind games in fighting games just end up being 50/50s.

What if life is just a 50/50?
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Lol I think alien is corrupting you man :D

When 50 50s become more like reads gone wrong instead of coin flips that get me to lose half my life and have no risk, then I'll gladly accept it
 
hkriderz

hkriderz

Lin Kuei Scum, yellow robot enthusiast
Rude said:
It's true that not every character benefits the same, but that's apart of balance. Not everyone gets the same reward for the same situation, but usually have something to make up for it.
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True. I just can't see why it should be adjusted to appeal more to some characters more than others, while it could be adjusted to appeal to all if the string becomes all mids
 
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SOULWARRIOR 71K

XBL: SOULWARRIOR 71K PSN: SOULWARRIOR71K
Let me start off by saying that I enjoyed the podcast and I really like the fact that known names are willing to go on record and admit that some of the offense in this game is broken. That being said, if an unknown person posted this, they would have been torn to shreds and told to get good lol.
 
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snort

Noob
Great Podcast, it actually left me wanting more since it was short. I think stamina recovery speed should be slowed down, It recovers slow for a second then speeds up too fast. Let stamina management be an essential part of the game. Also, no character in this game should have a safe 50/50.
 
haketh

haketh

Noob
THTB said:
@TopTierHarley As far as AAs go, I wish Reptile had a 7f, 3f active stand jab. :p

Look at his stand jab and you'll cry. ;_;

And don't mention my uppercut that still loses to a bunch of jump-ins anyway. ;_________;
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Never met a Jump In I couldn't low profule with B+3 outside of Alien J. 2

I could be biased on the AA topic cuz all my characters have great AAs lol, bless Ermac D+3

Rude said:
Cause it's not like D'Vorah can't condition people to block a certain way and then use puddle once people start respecting any guaranteed follow ups she may have. It's all their slow reactions. There is absolutely no mind game happening at all during her pressure that could open up the use of puddle.
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I mean at that point the D'Vorah earned it, that's compeltely fine
 
TopTierHarley

TopTierHarley

Kytinn King
Rude said:
Cause it's not like D'Vorah can't condition people to block a certain way and then use puddle once people start respecting any guaranteed follow ups she may have. It's all their slow reactions. There is absolutely no mind game happening at all during her pressure that could open up the use of puddle.
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You can still react to it though.
 
Rude

Rude

You will serve me in The Netherrealm
hkriderz said:
True. I just can't see why it should be adjusted to appeal more to some characters more than others, while it could be adjusted to appeal to all if the string becomes all mids
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I think the biggest problems with Alien lie in his jump attacks, hitbox issues, etc.
TopTierHarley said:
50/50s aren't safe, but ok
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They can be made safe via wasp cancel at the cost of creating a gap. Should we re-name this The D'Vorah Downplay thread?
 
Rude

Rude

You will serve me in The Netherrealm
Dankster Morgan said:
You know what I mean, but ok. Yeah there is a gap but wgc will make it safe.

Also I'm not trying to get your character ruined out of salt, I just think she is a little bit much.
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I'm not objective enough to comment on whether or not she needs nerfs, but I do think she'll be much higher on the tier list if the current top 5 get nuked.

Autocorrect turned my do into a "don't."
 
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Ragnarök Tyr

Ragnarök Tyr

Noob
@TopTierHarley

Dvorah has about 2 or 3 combo enders in the corner that let her set up puddle on Oki. If I wake up with armor it gets hit by the puddle then I get counter hit by whatever Dvorah opts to do, b1, s4, f1 etc.

If I DWU I avoid the puddle but lose my ability to do a reversal and am forced to block her mix up.

If I jump her recovery on Puddle is fast enough to AA me and put me back in the corner.

So what is the famed secret around it? The way some Dvorah players talk Puddle is a mid tier gimmick at best.
 
TopTierHarley

TopTierHarley

Kytinn King
RM xRagnarökx said:
@TopTierHarley

Dvorah has about 2 or 3 combo enders in the corner that let her set up puddle on Oki. If I wake up with armor it gets hit by the puddle then I get counter hit by whatever Dvorah opts to do, b1, s4, f1 etc.

If I DWU I avoid the puddle but lose my ability to do a reversal and am forced to block her mix up.

If I jump her recovery on Puddle is fast enough to AA me and put me back in the corner.

So what is the famed secret around it? The way some Dvorah players talk Puddle is a mid tier gimmick at best.
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tech roll wake up, slight delay wake up
 
TopTierHarley

TopTierHarley

Kytinn King
Dankster Morgan said:
You know what I mean, but ok. Yeah there is a gap but wgc will make it safe.

Also I'm not trying to get your character ruined out of salt, I just think she is a little bit much.
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No, it's actually unsafe, going into a cancel from f22 or b1 is a punish. I know lol, like I said a nerf won't stop people from losing to me.
 
Bruno-NeoSpace

Bruno-NeoSpace

They see me zonin', they hatin'
I agree with everything REO said.

''They want all characters to be like Mileena and Alien tier, otherwise they're not viable. I think that's a bunch of bullshit. We shouldn't be pushing to make more characters top tier like Alien, we should be pushing to make characters to have better design like current nerfed Tanya, Raiden, Quan Chi, CBZ. These characters are actually very good, they're still good characters. It's just that does not matter because the top tiers and a lot of characters above the margins are absolutely R E T A R D E D .'' - REO

SUPER TRUE
 
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