Guide - Cutthroat Kano Hype Train Video by Pig of the Hut & Machinima

[Apex Kano]

What? Cyber can space control so that makes him more safe? Really?

The only space control tools Cyber has that Cutthroat is his piss poor knife, B2 which a baby could hit him out of, and a different b1.

Meanwhile, Cutthroat has f2 which has comparable range to Cyber's B2 but with better priority and db1.

Cutthroat is definitely safer

How do you call a fast mid knive poor? Yes, bd1 has range but I'll just zone you out with knives and d4 ex knives into pressure. Any ways. Cyber b2 is a great way to punish whiffing in conjuntion of his d4. Cyber is safer and actually beats CT in a mirror macth.

 

[Gofer_MK_]

Kano really doesn't have to risk much, maybe make a read every now and then but he doesn't have "obvious weakness". He's a complete character with all the tools you'd want a character to have but FAR from broken.he has all the tools you want but specializes in none.

decent pressure, decent zoning, decent 50/50s ( overhead is safe but the low starter is not , it's not A completely safe 50/50) decent damage( if you're not in the corner you're getting probably know more then 32%) very meter hungry but is not a weakness, you just have to use meter wisely because you need it for everything. Kano is no doubt top 10 or higher but if you're picking him up thinking you're going to win easily you're in for a rude awakening

. Pretty much all ( Maybe except like 2 mus) of his match ups are 5-5 and 6-4( some winning some losing) if he fits your style go for it, but it's going to take work

Godlike post.

 

[Phosferrax]

All Kano vareints are safe, but Cyber controls space more and in my opnion is safer.

Every Cybernetic specific move is more unsafe than what CT has. You're not using the word 'safe' in the right context.

CT is the safest Kano. That isn't an opinion, it's a fact.

 

[MsMiharo]

All Kano vareints are safe, but Cyber controls space more and in my opnion is safer.

how? knife toss is -11 instead of -7. Ground laser is -11. His mid strings into grenades are -8. Now you don't HAVE to use these but CT has no unsafe tools. Also CT controls the space on the ground better (f2 beats b2 by miiiiiiiiiiiles, mid knives are nice but not that good), Cyber the air slightly better, but not to the point where it makes him safer.

 

[thlityoursloat]

I still don't get why they nerfed Cyber's knives rofl. They went from -7 to -11 and the EX went from +7 to +5.

 

[A F0xy Grampa]

All Kano vareints are safe, but Cyber controls space more and in my opnion is safer.

The numbers say that cyber is less safe.

Kano players for some reason like doing random shit like d4 knife, thats a punish.
At least CT is either neutral, advantage, landing a hit or -5 on any scenario.

 

[kantboy-2]

I wish Commando had those Cyber NJPs.

If CT had them, he'd be even better.

The new influx of Kano players now do the same 3 moves over and over; db1, f2, b1. Random shit happens when that doesn't work and since they really don't know shit about Kano besides those 3 moves, you know the rest.

Can't wait to see Dragon using CT.

 

[Belial]

And the experienced players like you should be here educating all the newcomers to our scene, stop with all the passive aggressive, elitist and childish ballshit and just talk about the game.

By responding like this you make the scene look bad to newcomers. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and if they want to be assholes just let them, don't bring yourself down to their level. Just my 2 cents for whatever it's worth.

Edit: After reading the whole thread I don't think you handled things that badly. Just sometimes your attitude can come across as very condescending and elitist in some reploes, it's not too great for newcomers to the scene. Great video though!

I see an experienced player doing A LOT both for Kano players AND community in general. Making such a video takes lots of time and effort, he doesn't even have since on top of playing MK on top level his family takes most of his free time.
Are there even videos coming close to this in terms of being so short and informative at the same time? No, and nobody cares about 1hr long tutorials with bad sound and scripting.

So what do you get when you waste your precious free time, that could be spent preparing for esl, trying to do something for the community? Spite, accusations and demands. Lol you people are idiots, burying your own (competetive) grave, never succesful at anything due to your scrub mentality.

 

[Rude]

How do you call a fast mid knive poor? Yes, bd1 has range but I'll just zone you out with knives and d4 ex knives into pressure. Any ways. Cyber b2 is a great way to punish whiffing in conjuntion of his d4. Cyber is safer and actually beats CT in a mirror macth.

F4 is a far better whiff punisher. By a lot. Cyber isn't safer simply because you keep repeating it. One look at the frame data is all you need.

B13,1+3 is punishable, laser is punishable and B1 is -8.

Definitely not safer.

B2 can be interrupted by basically anything when it isn't being nuetral jumped.

Cyber's MB Knives guarantee nothing on block, not even a poke, compared to the far greater + frames Cutthroat gets off EX Buff cancels.

The mid knife is poor because it loses in trades with most other projectiles, (example: A-List Johnny Cage can out-zone Cyber simply because his projectile will always trade in his favor) it's also poor as far as chip damage is concerned. There's really nothing to fear from blocking a Cyber knife and working your way in.

Cyber doesn't win the mirror. At best, it's probably even despite Cutthroat massively out-damaging Cyber. It's hilarious, even Cutthroat's knives deal more damage on hit than Cyber's.

 

[Son ov Timett]

It's a hard read. F2 is 13 frames, and Kano is only -5, so if he doesn't backdash and does a d3, I now have to eat a 50/50.

You have to establish some consequence to the backdashing, or you're just going to wait around to deal with more, b.s. Not a hard read until ye get yoke in the face. These are human beings we're dealing with, chances are the opponent will try something other than backdashing after ye blow him for it.

 

[BigMacMcLovin]

If you're character has a true 50/50 combo starter then they should be extremely punishable on block, only be safe if you decide to spend a bar and in no way should it be hit-confirmable.

I think that should be a universal rule for all characters in MKX but unfortunately a few characters get off too lightly, CT Kano being one of them.

 

[MsMiharo]

There is no way in hell cyber wins the mirror vs ct lol. That MU is hell.

 

[Wetdoba]

Do people know that Kano can turn his buff OFF whenever he wants so he doesnt lose 15% right? I keep seeing the "but it costs 15% healthhhhh" downplay but thats not true at all. Overhead or low confirmed with EX buff into full combo and then turn the buff off and youll lose less than 5%

CT is dumb

 

[ando1184]

All Kano vareints are safe, but Cyber controls space more and in my opnion is safer.

I think CT is still just a little safer than Cyber just because of db1. Due to that being his ender for most strings now. Cyber is left with having to end string as is or throwing a gimmicky knife toss or eye laser. Both of those options are more negative than CT db1 on block.

 

[Prinz]

I bet if pig had of made a vid saying CT Kano is low mid and needs buffs, the Kano community would have been like: Couldn't agree more, he is unsafe on everything and needs to damage himself to do combos over 60%.

Seriously though, thx for the vid and I hope we will see more vids from you in the future that bring out the best of certain character so I can contemplate playing them and the worst of certain communities so I can add them to my ignore list. I mean your hitting two birds with one stone for me!

Not true. Kano community always said he was good.

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

And the experienced players like you should be here educating all the newcomers to our scene, stop with all the passive aggressive, elitist and childish ballshit and just talk about the game.

By responding like this you make the scene look bad to newcomers. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and if they want to be assholes just let them, don't bring yourself down to their level. Just my 2 cents for whatever it's worth.

Edit: After reading the whole thread I don't think you handled things that badly. Just sometimes your attitude can come across as very condescending and elitist in some reploes, it's not too great for newcomers to the scene. Great video though!

If I came off passive I'm sorry, I usually hit straight to the point without beating around the bush

I get a lot of this flak Because I'm the one to point it out but the real evidence is just to look around

Same thing happened w Srk mid 2000s, you literally had guys like sonic fox and Reo making quality threads being shit on constantly by these guys named

Some people just can't be helped

For some reason I'm stupid and will continue to post these videos here lol, regardless I'm glad to see in recent pages I has spurred good quality conversations from game time rude etc

 

[The_Tile]

If I came off positive I'm sorry, I usually hit straight to the point without beating around the bush

I get a lot of this flak Because I'm the one to point it out but the real evidence is just to look around

Same thing happened w Srk mid 2000s, you literally had guys like sonic fox and Reo making quality threads being shit on constantly by these guys named

Some people just can't be helped

For some reason I'm stupid and will continue to post these videos here lol, regardless I'm glad to see in recent pages I has spurred good quality conversations from game time rude etc

Yeah I have a lot of respect for you as a person and a player. And there is always a very good point to your posts, I just think some people could take it the wrong way is all.

Regardless, don't let it stop you from posting content on TYM. Some quality content is exactly what we need right now and a few idiots shouldn't spoil it for the rest of us. Most of us actually really appreciate the effort you put into stuff like this, it's amazing for the scene.

 

[kantboy-2]

I like Pig's videos, even if he doesn't like the character, he gives you the information you actually need to play properly. People shouldn't shit on that.

And, people, stop saying 'mirror match' with different variations. If my Kano has a yellow eye and your Kano has a blue eye, IT'S NOT THE SAME FREAKIN' KANO. If your Takeda has a ninja mask and my Takeda has glowing whips, IT'S NOT THE SAME TAKEDA. "Dude, that Cassie mirror was awesome! Which Cassie mirror; the Cassie with shades fighting the Cassie with an earpiece and a tracker? NOT A MIRROR!" *end of mini-rant*

 

[ando1184]

If I came off passive I'm sorry, I usually hit straight to the point without beating around the bush

I get a lot of this flak Because I'm the one to point it out but the real evidence is just to look around

Same thing happened w Srk mid 2000s, you literally had guys like sonic fox and Reo making quality threads being shit on constantly by these guys named

Some people just can't be helped

For some reason I'm stupid and will continue to post these videos here lol, regardless I'm glad to see in recent pages I has spurred good quality conversations from game time rude etc

See and that's kind of why I ended up taking it the wrong way myself. You threw out the words downplayer and kept sayin peace after certain posts. So yeh that kinda did look bad and set me off too. But hey, from the look of where this thread is turning everyone is cooling down and reflecting like mature adults. Idk bout you guys but to me this site look it might start heading into the right direction? I think maybe @Tom Brady bradycast might have actually struck us in the correct way . Anyway, @Pig Of The Hut i look forward to more of your vids man and am impressed and glad you, Reo, Brady, SF, and countless others put in the effort you do for this site and the community as a whole.

 

[Parnak]

Was youtubing and happened upon Pillar of Salt.. Looks like Reo's about to get on the Kano hype train.! (the blue one) Ain't that good news for the Kano community

 

[Apex Kano]

The numbers say that cyber is less safe.

Kano players for some reason like doing random shit like d4 knife, thats a punish.
At least CT is either neutral, advantage, landing a hit or -5 on any scenario.

True.
If you go by the frame data only, then yes CT is safer. But skill wise and macthup knowledge you can make Cyber safe and vaible. But sadly, I am trying to still defending Cyber even though he received no love from the developers.

F4 is a far better whiff punisher. By a lot. Cyber isn't safer simply because you keep repeating it. One look at the frame data is all you need.

B13,1+3 is punishable, laser is punishable and B1 is -8.

Definitely not safer.

B2 can be interrupted by basically anything when it isn't being nuetral jumped.

Cyber's MB Knives guarantee nothing on block, not even a poke, compared to the far greater + frames Cutthroat gets off EX Buff cancels.

The mid knife is poor because it loses in trades with most other projectiles, (example: A-List Johnny Cage can out-zone Cyber simply because his projectile will always trade in his favor) it's also poor as far as chip damage is concerned. There's really nothing to fear from blocking a Cyber knife and working your way in.

Cyber doesn't win the mirror. At best, it's probably even despite Cutthroat massively out-damaging Cyber. It's hilarious, even Cutthroat's knives deal more damage on hit than Cyber's.

I beat plenty of CT with Cyber

Damage and ground Conrtol CT can do. Anti air and soace control Cyber can do. It's a good macthup regardless.

There is no way in hell cyber wins the mirror vs ct lol. That MU is hell.

Cyber is still usable and viable, even when I off about it on the last update when NRS never touched Cyber. I beat CT with Cyber all the time. He is my anti CT.

I think CT is still just a little safer than Cyber just because of db1. Due to that being his ender for most strings now. Cyber is left with having to end string as is or throwing a gimmicky knife toss or eye laser. Both of those options are more negative than CT db1 on block.

You don't always have to end a string with a special.

 

[Apex Kano]

Was youtubing and happened upon Pillar of Salt.. Looks like Reo's about to get on the Kano hype train.! (the blue one) Ain't that good news for the Kano community

If Kano is top 5 like every claims, I want to see Kano win Evo this year. Its nice to see Reo picking Mileena and Kano this year.

 

[juicepouch]

@PrimBloodGhost being top 5 doesn't hinge on tourney success, and matchups aren't determined by your level of success online vs a character

 

[ando1184]

True.
If you go by the frame data only, then yes CT is safer. But skill wise and macthup knowledge you can make Cyber safe and vaible. But sadly, I am trying to still defending Cyber even though he received no love from the developers.



I beat plenty of CT with Cyber

Damage and ground Conrtol CT can do. Anti air and soace control Cyber can do. It's a good macthup regardless.



Cyber is still usable and viable, even when I off about it on the last update when NRS never touched Cyber. I beat CT with Cyber all the time. He is my anti CT.



You don't always have to end a string with a special.

Well yeh I know, that's why I said "as is," meaning just doing the strings. Which in most cases is still more - except for b13.

 

[Zabru]

I'm gonna give this guy a go, I'm just resisting the urge to play cyber (he just looks really cool).