General/Other - Cutthroat Kano's Cutthroat Variation Discussion Thread

[jokey77]

Anyone here uses cutthroat 28 percent one bar restand combo. Ill just put it down just in case its real simple

112ex buff 112blade slice its 28 percent. if the they guees wrong on the follow up 50/50 thats 40 percent plus the 28 thats 68 percent thats most there life with one bad guess it does cost too bars for the whole set up but its cool to do once in awhile

Imho nothing after exslice is guaranteed, but a f2-check. If you want a 50/50, you got to end with 11-run.

Then again I have been labbing Kano for just 3 days...

 

[KanoBaII]

Kano cross over tech

 

[jokey77]

Kano cross over tech

lol dude, just saw this. mind if I add your video to my thread?

great find btw, you were faster than me and I didnt even think of using it with dashes in the corner! ;-)

 

[MsMiharo]

A fun but pretty useless gimmick is to mix up your corner combos after ex slice to jik air ball. If they don't delay WU or armor they get up just as your 50/50 is coming out.

 

[_smash_]

Does anyone here have any tips for CT vs piercing? Having a tough time in the neutral against her

 

[jokey77]

I would really appreciate if you guys told me, how you set up the 50/50. The horrid range still is an issue.

This is what I had some success with:

- dash forward
- dash forward d3
- simply run in after a knockdown
- knockdown with roll, running in, jump (to fake a jump attack and dodge wakeups), land
- jip after slice (as long as they don't know the matchup)

... this is pretty much it. I'm working with F21 way more than I'd like to.

 

[MsMiharo]

I would really appreciate if you guys told me, how you set up the 50/50. The horrid range still is an issue.

This is what I had some success with:

- dash forward
- dash forward d3
- simply run in after a knockdown
- knockdown with roll, running in, jump (to fake a jump attack and dodge wakeups), land
- jip after slice (as long as they don't know the matchup)

... this is pretty much it. I'm working with F21 way more than I'd like to.

I don't really understand the issue. This is MKX, run up 50/50!

 

[LaidbackOne]

I would really appreciate if you guys told me, how you set up the 50/50. The horrid range still is an issue.

This is what I had some success with:

- dash forward
- dash forward d3
- simply run in after a knockdown
- knockdown with roll, running in, jump (to fake a jump attack and dodge wakeups), land
- jip after slice (as long as they don't know the matchup)

... this is pretty much it. I'm working with F21 way more than I'd like to.

Yeah, such a terrible range on the safe hit confirmable 50/50 for fuckload of damage. Just run up after HKD and start your Cutthroat bullshit

 

[I GOT HANDS]

Yeah, such a terrible range on the safe hit confirmable 50/50 for fuckload of damage. Just run up after HKD and start your Cutthroat bullshit

you can hitconfirm B12? Ok

 

[MsMiharo]

you can hitconfirm B12? Ok

You can. B31 is harder but doeable. Also you can confirm B121 into ball or EX slice for a full combo. If not you can B31/B12 EX buff and jail into s1 or go for another 50/50. Which you can yolo sllice, if you're too lazy to hit confirm, restanding them on hit and being safe on block.

 

[I GOT HANDS]

You can. B31 is harder but doeable. Also you can confirm B121 into ball or EX slice for a full combo. If not you can B31/B12 EX buff and jail into s1 or go for another 50/50. Which you can yolo sllice, if you're too lazy to hit confirm, restanding them on hit and being safe on block.

you can't hitconfirm B12 into Buff tho and thats the big damage

 

[MsMiharo]

you can't hitconfirm B12 into Buff tho and thats the big damage

what? Why wouldn't you be able to? Either way most people use ex slice for midscreen since the damage difference is slight and you don't lose HP. (42% with ex buff, 36% with b12 EX slice, 35% with b121 EX slice)

 

[I GOT HANDS]

what? Why wouldn't you be able to? Either way most people use ex slice for midscreen since the damage difference is slight and you don't lose HP. (42% with ex buff, 36% with b12 EX slice, 35% with b121 EX slice)

yeah I guess you'd go for the buff regardless if you were going to do that... re-reading my posts it looks like I was being sarcastic but I'm just tired as hell and it came out wierd... I'm genuinely asking - can you hitconfirm B12 into EX Buff?

 

[MsMiharo]

yeah I guess you'd go for the buff regardless if you were going to do that... re-reading my posts it looks like I was being sarcastic but I'm just tired as hell and it came out wierd... I'm genuinely asking - can you hitconfirm B12 into EX Buff?

Yes. I am trash though so I go for b121 both midscreen and in the corner since I prefer slice combos midscreen and the damage is pretty much the same. In the corner I confirm into knife for full combo. I can confirm off of b12 but it's like eh why bother potentially messing up, when I know confirming isn't my forte?

 

[jokey77]

I do go for the buff pretty much all the time, if I spent meter. This is definitly possbile. After b21 and b31 you can hitconfirm into f212 for like 40%.

However I don't hitconfirm b21, but b212. I usually go for b212-exslice, run, b212-roll (easy) or b212-exslice, 2-slice, 112-roll (kinda tricky timing). Anyone got anything better?

Neither do I hitconfirm b31. However I make use of its insane stagger (on hit) or the +1 advantage (on block).

The key to "outstanding" Kano gameplay could very well be hitconfirming b21 and b31. I can't do it, but this is after just 1 week of playing Kano, so I might level up eventually. The difficult thing is that you have to hitconfirm b21 into ex slice or buff on hit, while on block you have to switch to 2. Then again b31 is about going for either the ex-move or just do nothing. All these variations are damn confusing and make hitconfirms way harder then for most characters.

 

[MsMiharo]

I do go for the buff pretty much all the time, if I spent meter. This is definitly possbile. After b21 and b31 you can hitconfirm into f212 for like 40%.

However I don't hitconfirm b21, but b212. I usually go for b212-exslice, run, b212-roll (easy) or b212-exslice, 2-slice, 112-roll (kinda tricky timing). Anyone got anything better?

Neither do I hitconfirm b31. However I make use of its insane stagger (on hit) or the +1 advantage (on block).

The key to "outstanding" Kano gameplay could very well be hitconfirming b21 and b31. I can't do it, but this is after just 1 week of playing Kano, so I might level up eventually. The difficult thing is that you have to hitconfirm b21 into ex slice or buff on hit, while on block you have to switch to 2. Then again b31 is about going for either the ex-move or just do nothing. All these variations are damn confusing and make hitconfirms way harder then for most characters.

B121 ex slice 2 slice 112 is quite consistent, just keep at it.

 

[Red Hood MKX]

Imho nothing after exslice is guaranteed, but a f2-check. If you want a 50/50, you got to end with 11-run.

Then again I have been labbing Kano for just 3 days...

Yeah my bad forgot to mention the blade slice doesn't guarantee the 50/50 but a couple good checks with f212 after any slice will have people conditioned to not press buttons

 

[MsMiharo]

Yeah my bad forgot to mention the blade slice doesn't guarantee the 50/50 but a couple good checks with f212 after any slice will have people conditioned to not press buttons

Run up grab is a good check as well since it will catch pokes.

 

[JesterSMX]

I'm a Shaolin main so I'm used to safety and at least 2 50/50's per string... only kinda joking... but do yall consider 50/50-ex buff-50/50 a gimmick? I read in this thread that b12 and b31 are +9 after ex buff and although they don't jail, they do combo. You wouldn't need to hit confirm until the 2nd 50/50 on hit and 3 or 4 frames is a tight window for reversal on block. What do yall think. I've been labbing him a bit and trying to steal yall's tech.

 

[MsMiharo]

I'm a Shaolin main so I'm used to safety and at least 2 50/50's per string... only kinda joking... but do yall consider 50/50-ex buff-50/50 a gimmick? I read in this thread that b12 and b31 are +9 after ex buff and although they don't jail, they do combo. You wouldn't need to hit confirm until the 2nd 50/50 on hit and 3 or 4 frames is a tight window for reversal on block. What do yall think. I've been labbing him a bit and trying to steal yall's tech.

It's legit since it beats pokes but when people learn the MU you need to switch it up with d4, f2, block, s1, crossover jumps, grab.

 

[gibster13]

B121exbuff is +15

*Jumps of cliff*

 

[MsMiharo]

B121exbuff is +15

*Jumps of cliff*

You can jail into ijip midscreen lul

 

[MsMiharo]

Yoooo new max damage midscreen bnbs???

In short - b121 guarantees that both hit of kano ball hits meaning you ALWAYS get the max damage. ALSO you get a smudge more meter AND you don't use stamina which is good if you run up 50/50 or have just broken or something.

B12 EX Slice f212 rc 112 ball does 36-37% depending on if both hits of ball hit.
B12 EX Slice 2 slice b121 ball does 37% every time

B31 EX slice f212 rc 112 ball does 34-35% depending on if both hit of ball hit.
B31 EX slice 2 slice b121 ball does 35% every time

112 EX slice f212 rc 112 ball does 37%
112 EX slice 2 slice b121 ball does 38%

f212 f212 rc 112 ball does 30%
f212 2 slice b121 ball does 31%

The f212 combo is tight but the others are easy af. Learn them, no reason not to.

@Jupe @jokey77

 

[Gofer_MK_]

Yoooo new max damage midscreen bnbs???

In short - b121 guarantees that both hit of kano ball hits meaning you ALWAYS get the max damage. ALSO you get a smudge more meter AND you don't use stamina which is good if you run up 50/50 or have just broken or something.

B12 EX Slice f212 rc 112 ball does 36-37% depending on if both hits of ball hit.
B12 EX Slice 2 slice b121 ball does 37% every time

B31 EX slice f212 rc 112 ball does 34-35% depending on if both hit of ball hit.
B31 EX slice 2 slice b121 ball does 35% every time

112 EX slice f212 rc 112 ball does 37%
112 EX slice 2 slice b121 ball does 38%

f212 f212 rc 112 ball does 30%
f212 2 slice b121 ball does 31%

The f212 combo is tight but the others are easy af. Learn them, no reason not to.

@Jupe @jokey77

You beat me too it... my first intput to the Kano community.

Great find!!!

 

[MsMiharo]

You beat me too it... my first intput to the Kano community.

Great find!!!

thanks. I want to find something to make f212 combo consistent but nothing yet. It's kinda hard. It's easy-ish with 2 slice 112 ball but then you end up with the same damage so no real use except extra meter build