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Discussion ... so who are the Top 5 after all the patching?

I don't find that those give him much trouble except Mileena and Cage. I prefer cyber for Alien though. Takedas range can be a problem but it doesn't break the MU.
I didnt say they break the MU but they win it, could be 6/4 but the ranged normals give him trouble.

Kanos neutral is godlike, what are you talking about?
No it isnt, doing d4 and slice wont do the cut vs good ranged normal characters, thats hes main issue hes normals are not too good.
 

st9rm

viennality.com
top 5, no order:

mileena
cage
lao (he is still top tier, idc what you say)
jax
liu kang


slightly not in top5:

kotal
takeda
ferra/torr
kano
cassie
 

Wetdoba

All too easy...
I didnt say they break the MU but they win it, could be 6/4 but the ranged normals give him trouble.



No it isnt, doing d4 and slice wont do the cut vs good ranged normal characters, thats hes main issue hes normals are not too good.
D4 and slice are not Kanos only moves lol, 3 different Kano balls, knives, great dashes, he controls space in the neutral extremely well
 
D4 and slice are not Kanos only moves lol, 3 different Kano balls, knives, great dashes, he controls space in the neutral extremely well
Yes true he can do 3 unsafe yolo kano balls to get in, all full combo punishable on block, I forgot. I will give this time, so people really see Kano is not a big shot.
 

Red Hood MKX

Mercenary dog
It's. Only weakness I see is short range, floaty jumps and weak jump in attacks.
Why are people saying cutthroat kano has no range. Kanos f2 Has more range than anything johhny cage has dizzy knee included and we have slightly more range than mileenas b1 go test it in the lab if you think im wrong characters like takeda and alien give kano problems with their reach but everyone else kano can compete with in the range department
 

Bugman

Noob
This is my top 5 overall in MKXL:

Shinnok (Broken and Overpower character. Also he win all of his Match Up.)
Mileena (Overpower and gimmicky character of them all.)
Takeda (The best range character in the game hands down.)
Alien (Even he got nerf, he still ignore to deal with.)
Liu Kang (The frame trap god.)
 

Ze Dingo

D4->F2 = unblockable. Ice Clone = unpunishable.
The reason is because I fuck up the hitconfirm.

No Mileena player can hitconfirm that string 100%
I think with enough practice and a Ritalin overdose, it can be achieved :DOGE

The inherent problem is that, you're confirming off of B1 and not B12 per se. If you see B1 hit 2 BD4 needs to be input immediately.
 

RM AtK!

aka - RM_AtK !
Just wanted to say that I'm utterly surprised that basically EVERYONE in this thread has been saying that Johnny Cage is a Top 5 character! Not that I think you guys are wrong, far from it, but good Lord in heaven, this is soooooooooooo fun to read. lmao

Remember when the whole community thought that Cage was terrible? When people thought he was bottom 5? Had non-existent mixups? The worst NJP in the game? Wait, DO YOU GUYS REMEMBER THE WHOLE "JOHNNY CAGE IS A FORD FOCUS" FIASCO? Omg I'm dying right now lol

Seriously, A-List was barely touched throughout the game's lifespan, he always, ALWAYS had insane pressure (even when he had that "omg mah high attackz ain't hitting 'em crouch blocking mofos" thing which every downplayer was using as excuse for their losses, when in fact they simply sucked), always had plus frames for a lifetime, always had fantastic footsie tools and Dizzy Knee has always been one of the best normals in the whole game.

But you guys are only realizing this now :rolleyes:

Man, I'm super tempted to drop a few quotes in here lol This is gold.
negative he was bottom 5 vanilla
 

Wetdoba

All too easy...
Yes true he can do 3 unsafe yolo kano balls to get in, all full combo punishable on block, I forgot. I will give this time, so people really see Kano is not a big shot.
Kanos balls arent a get in for free tool dude if thats how you view them its no wonder you think they are bad. Kano balls are meant to be done as a reaction to your opponents moves to punish them, you dont yolo Kano ball all day