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All of his cancels got nerfed by 3, plus 2 isn't plus 2 also.Can I ask why Kang isnt on this list? If I had to guess, it would be because his +2 is not plus two anymore?
All of his cancels got nerfed by 3, plus 2 isn't plus 2 also.Can I ask why Kang isnt on this list? If I had to guess, it would be because his +2 is not plus two anymore?
No such thing as Kano in top 8... aside form Jupes win in some Euro Tournament.
Can someone link me some Kano Top 8 Matches?!
Thank U !
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are you being sarcastic, or did I miss the Jax nerfs, I thought all Wrestler got was a shitload less damage and a much easier punish on B2 in return for a safer D1 or some shit?So what Jax isnt top 5 to anyone? Not even with the Wrestler buffs?
Kung Lao's 3 frame links* really not that hard eitherIt is definitive because F0xy, who was able to get KL's 2f links consistently was struggling to hitconfirm b12 at Hypespotting. Its not impossible to hitconfirm but not easy.
Please do not say something is easy to hitconfirm unless you have played the character and actually tried to hitconfirm that thing lol.
Its funny when ppl put kano cutthorat at top 5 it makes me lol so hard, I could name at least 15 variations that are better... those casuals ohh those casuals...Yeah idk what I was thinking.
It's actually.
1. A-list
2. Piercing
3. Alien
4. D'vorah
5. Takeda.
I wouldn't put him in top 5 but he's a top 10 contender tbh. Great footsies, good projectile, safe 50/50's, great pokes, great corner carry, armor that leads to full combo, armor that is safe and 7f startup, etc.LOL
Its funny when ppl put kano cutthorat at top 5 it makes me lol so hard, I could name at least 15 variations that are better... those casuals ohh those casuals...
I believe Coach Steve made top 8 at Winterbrawl. Could be wrong but he was very close if he didn't get top 8No such thing as Kano in top 8... aside form Jupes win in some Euro Tournament.
he has too many loosing matchups thats the problem, every character with long normals like Takeda, Cage, Mileena, Alien, Kung Jin, just to mention a few give him trouble.I wouldn't put him in top 5 but he's a top 10 contender tbh. Great footsies, good projectile, safe 50/50's, great pokes, great corner carry, armor that leads to full combo, armor that is safe and 7f startup, etc.
He's solid but he is more of a "Ryu" type char, well rounded overall but doesn't excel at anything.LOL
Its funny when ppl put kano cutthorat at top 5 it makes me lol so hard, I could name at least 15 variations that are better... those casuals ohh those casuals...
XL patch when all top tiers got normalized.When did Takeda become top 5?
CORRECT, this is what Iv been saying, people somehow like to overreact or overhype, and then get dissapointed, on paper he has good tools, but lack of a good neutral game and good normals, hes fast normals are high, and have short range.He's solid but he is more of a "Ryu" type char, well rounded overall but doesn't excel at anything.
okay thanks, i didnt know it was that much of aa difference, I noticed its alot harder to jail but its possibleAll of his cancels got nerfed by 3, plus 2 isn't plus 2 also.
I don't find that those give him much trouble except Mileena and Cage. I prefer cyber for Alien though. Takedas range can be a problem but it doesn't break the MU.he has too many loosing matchups thats the problem, every character with long normals like Takeda, Cage, Mileena, Alien, Kung Jin, just to mention a few give him trouble.
Kanos neutral is godlike, what are you talking about?CORRECT, this is what Iv been saying, people somehow like to overreact or overhype, and then get dissapointed, on paper he has good tools, but lack of a good neutral game and good normals, hes fast normals are high, and have short range.
By mileena factor do you mean the nerfing of top tiers brings him to the top 5? And your list is pretty spot on I would take scorp and shincock out but that's just personal opinion. I could see the cases made for them though.this topic seems to have a new thread really like every hour .
honestly theres like 10 chracters in the top 5 .
Also Shaolin KJ is just as good as takeda ... watch - hes gonna have the mileena factor
this is not in order but all top 5
Shinnok
mileena
cage
takeda
Shaolin Kung Jin
Kano/kang- Depends on the day
Sonya
Kotal/scorpion/jax - also depends on the day :/
d'vorah
alien
this is your "top 5"
Gunslinger is amazing. Look at base erron black. Half screen over head low, low starter, armor breaking 11, 11212 is still amazing, his command grab is incredible, good damage even with base erron black, overhead and low slide. Ex sand grenade is +6. Cal trops, good pressure. Now in gunslinger his keep away is amazing and the low shots to INCREDIBLE chip damage, whiff recovery on the anti air guns is amazing, and those mid shots? Yeah good luck jumping over those. And on top of that they have push back AND he dashed backwards. I've honestly thought since the beginning of the game and through all the patches (not because of sonic) hes been great. And I still wanna see marksman at a high levelWhy tho?
Because a lot of the cast has 6f d1's that can poke out of dragons fires pressure now because of the xl patchCan I ask why Kang isnt on this list? If I had to guess, it would be because his +2 is not plus two anymore?
Idk exactly. But ronin is stupid lolWhen did Takeda become top 5?
Even before then. Ronin has had infinite frames traps for a while lolXL patch when all top tiers got normalized.
did you do that shincock on purpose? lolBy mileena factor do you mean the nerfing of top tiers brings him to the top 5? And your list is pretty spot on I would take scorp and shincock out but that's just personal opinion. I could see the cases made for them though.