To be fair there are dedicated threads to Ronin b11, showing how he locks many characters in corner when they don't have meter too....everyone should know how strong it is at this point.
True, but some highs will whiff even of crouch blocking opponents. So her b1 at max range would probably whiff.
while I agree with you 100% on this, B12 is an amazing tool and I can see why she needs it, kinda like how Shinnok needs that F4. What my gripe with the move is the options you have afterwards. I have no problem with it AA or Avoiding cross ups. It does what it is supposed to do.
The strings old gameplan was ruined.
This is why you need to go into practice and understand the ranges. Different options for different ranges on block.
A lot of other characters should have their mids made highs too, not just Mileena. If it looks like a high and it's ridiculously good on top of a character that has a lot of other good stuff then it should definitely be a high in my opinion. What you're saying is like saying other characters have safe launching 50/50s so why shouldn't this other character? Ideally none of them should have them. It's more of a design complaint for me than a balance complaint. And characters that aren't as good as Piercing Mileena I would not want to see get buffed with brain dead mids or 50/50s. In MKX's case it's better to nerf the top tiers than it is to buff the low tiers if we want a less luck based game.
No, characters need a good mid to stop people from doing shit like d4 d4 d4 d1 d1 d1.
Thats not the extent. But I did forget about that thread.
I know what you mean though, it's not the only mid with good range, good frame data and great practical applications. But if you consider Ronin's B11 amazing surely you can see why other people feel the way they do about Mileenas B12 right?
Its a flavour of the month thing, thats why.
It's brain dead as in it's an easy stagger mix up tool and an easy get in for free tool. It's only not brain dead relative to so many other character's brain dead get in for free mids. If you block a low poke and they try to low poke again, then you can interrupt that with your own low poke, which then typically leads to at least 16 frames of hit advantage, meaning you could then jail an 11 frame high. Instead of blocking a poke and then going into an immediate low risk high reward mix up that gains tons of meter on block, you would have to land your own poke first. Is that not good for MKX?
Would you say that This build of Mileena is the best "build / version" or any character that has been in MKX?
Shes definitely not better than post XL imposter IMO, same applies to prepatch summoner and EVO bone shaper.
Whats the mix up on B1? There isnt one, if B1 is staggered you have time to interupt for full combo if the opponent is taking the piss and trying to B1 or throw again. Thats on the player, not the character, same applies to Lao players doing 11212 -> D4 or throw or whatever.
To be honest idk why everyone is making such a fuss about this lol she's been had this string for the games entirety. It's always been good. I guess people really never fully use practice and such
Glad we both agree Post XL patch Imposter is dumb.
If b1 has 14 recovery frames and starts up in 11, that means in order for someone to react to a staggered b1 in time to interrupt a second b1 with a 9 frame poke, they would have to react in 16 frames if my math is right, and 19 frames with a 6 frame d1. That is not practically reactable, and that's excluding the factor of the time it takes to see that b12 hasn't come out.
If she needs a damage nerf due to her meterless midscreen damage, then so do a whole slew of other characters.
You're theory fighting me now, I know that it can be whiff punished because 1. I can do it 2. Others do it to me.
Im not against characters doing high meterless dmg.. but Mileena has so many tools, she can do well anyway with 30% instead of 35% meterless.
