General/Other - Ferra/Torr Ferra & Torr General Discussion Thread

[dennycascade]

It still jails

Into d1? Holy shit

Can b121 toss be backdashed in the corner

 

[Jolt]

Into d1? Holy shit

Can b121 toss be backdashed in the corner

With new netcode, I can FINALLY try my hand at this character. I don't know how you guys were comboing online before, but I couldn't to save my life.

@dennycascade train me, sensei.

 

[Maylon]

His d.2 is +4 on block, i think it was -11 previously.. not sure if this is enough to make it worth using

 

[Doombawkz]

His d.2 is +4 on block, i think it was -11 previously.. not sure if this is enough to make it worth using

Its actually looking like its only +3, but I mean its there.
If, for any reason, you're at enough to an advantage to just throw out a 19 frame uppercut with a lot of wind-up, then yeah you can use it here or there.

 

[ChoseDeath]

so you all know that f2 has been nerfed due too much damage in ruthless. I tried to get as much out of it as possible though and I have pretty much the same result as with two f2 in one combo. 47% after b121, 50% after s4, and 75% with 3 stacks. that means f2 has been nerfed for literally no fucking reason.

I haven't made this video public nor did I make a new thread for this because I don't want pngc to be hotfixed.
@Doombawkz @MadeFromMetal @Wetdoba @Kamikaze_Highlander @Shade667 @ChoseDeath

Great, because that makes all the sense... Thanks for sharing bro. Definitely, truly, NO ONE at NRS plays these two.

 

[ChoseDeath]

Its actually looking like its only +3, but I mean its there.
If, for any reason, you're at enough to an advantage to just throw out a 19 frame uppercut with a lot of wind-up, then yeah you can use it here or there.

If I'm way ahead I always try to raw D2 or F4 to win, lol. Very satisfying smack if it hits!

 

[Blewdew]

With new netcode, I can FINALLY try my hand at this character. I don't know how you guys were comboing online before, but I couldn't to save my life.

@dennycascade train me, sensei.

Had to cutb my bnbs to do Them consistenly but now it feels waaaay better

 

[Apex Kano]

So FT getting the unfair justice also huh? Removing the two knees inside a comop? Guess what, I never used it anyways. I can always get at least 50% without two knee combo. So good job nrs on failing but trying.

 

[Blewdew]

So FT getting the unfair justice also huh? Removing the two knees inside a comop? Guess what, I never used it anyways. I can always get at least 50% without two knee combo. So good job nrs on failing but trying.

It was really useful in lackey to get good damage in lackey but now Roll combos do even more.

 

[Trauma_and_Pain]

So what is the consensus on balance so far? It's early to say, but I think Lackey and Vicious are like solid A. Ruthless feels A+ to me so far but I haven't played with it much.

So FT getting the unfair justice also huh? Removing the two knees inside a comop? Guess what, I never used it anyways. I can always get at least 50% without two knee combo. So good job nrs on failing but trying.

You can still do F3 twice in several combos. Just popup, F3, F2, F3, then finish e.g. 2, F4 xx DBF1.

F2 is the one we can't use twice in a combo anymore. That's the pancake flip.

 

[Doombawkz]

We got buffed.

But don't worry, its not like we... ya know...
Got more infinites or anything.

 

[Apex Kano]

So what is the consensus on balance so far? It's early to say, but I think Lackey and Vicious are like solid A. Ruthless feels A+ to me so far but I haven't played with it much.


You can still do F3 twice in several combos. Just popup, F3, F2, F3, then finish e.g. 2, F4 xx DBF1.

F2 is the one we can't use twice in a combo anymore. That's the pancake flip.

Okay. My FT combos are so basic. I need to learn some better ones. Looking at Winter Brawl CR *forgot his name* FT player was nice to look at.

 

[Trauma_and_Pain]

Okay. My FT combos are so basic. I need to learn some better ones. Looking at Winter Brawl CR *forgot his name* FT player was nice to look at.

Biohazard?

You can also head over to the combo thread or post-patch thread for some new combo ideas. Our combos got a bit more complicated.

 

[ChoseDeath]

So what is the consensus on balance so far? It's early to say, but I think Lackey and Vicious are like solid A. Ruthless feels A+ to me so far but I haven't played with it much.


You can still do F3 twice in several combos. Just popup, F3, F2, F3, then finish e.g. 2, F4 xx DBF1.

F2 is the one we can't use twice in a combo anymore. That's the pancake flip.

Agreed. I'm digging the new team!

 

[LIONrus]

Hello
I know how to do a combo of a button , Here's a video

interested in the details?

 

[Kamikaze_Highlander]

Did they take a hit of armour off of EX dbf1??

 

[Blewdew]

Oh lackey how beautiful you can be

I love it when the opponent doesn't even know tech roll is an option and let themself 50/50 to death lol

 

[Doombawkz]

I saw OH swords into raw teleport and already knew where this was going.

 

[Blewdew]

Does anyone have tips for the SR takeda matchup? Yesterday at grs tournament after nivek switched to him I just felt so much in disadvantage and I couldn't get going anything at all. I'm way more confident against ronin and I'm trying to get on the same level with the SR MU.

@Wetdoba @Doombawkz @MadeFromMetal @Kamikaze_Highlander @Trauma_and_Pain and every f/t main I forgot

 

[Blewdew]

Add me, I'm on PS4 my ID is asodimazze. I play all variations, I can provide some mu experience after the patch hits (at the moment I'm only playing the Beta)

Ah I totally forgot to add you man you're still down for some matches?

 

[Asodimazze]

Ah I totally forgot to add you man you're still down for some matches?

sure! I live in EU though, so if you are from USA we won't be able to play

 

[Blewdew]

sure! I live in EU though, so if you are from USA we won't be able to play

I live in the eu as well so this will work out I think lol gonna add you now

 

[Wetdoba]

Does anyone have tips for the SR takeda matchup? Yesterday at grs tournament after nivek switched to him I just felt so much in disadvantage and I couldn't get going anything at all. I'm way more confident against ronin and I'm trying to get on the same level with the SR MU.

@Wetdoba @Doombawkz @MadeFromMetal @Kamikaze_Highlander @Trauma_and_Pain and every f/t main I forgot

What variation were you using? Lackey is pretty good against Takeda in general

 

[Blewdew]

What variation were you using? Lackey is pretty good against Takeda in general

Against ronin I use ruthless usually and it works fine actually. Also used ruthless yesterday and I thought lackey wouldn't do well against him. What's the gameplan with lackey against SR? I can imagine you can charge on reaction since takedas Long range normals are quite slow but idk what to do otherwise. I'd be really thankful for some Information about this

 

[Trauma_and_Pain]

Does anyone have tips for the SR takeda matchup?

I prefer Ruthless against Shirai Ryu. I know what you mean about being at disadvantage, I think after a 1,1,2 hitstring or something, he's like +19 and his low pokes are even plus on block, so just practice and try to get familiar with him so he doesn't trick you so much. Whenever he tele cancels, it's your turn.

Most times they will end 1,1,2 blockstring without canceling into anything and end other blockstrings with Close Kunai, which is like -1 on block. If they're greedy they might try NJP after Close Kunai but it won't work; you can just NJP and you will win. There is a gap in 1,1,2 [gap] xx Close Kunai on block; you can NJP punish safely in that gap. His B2,1, [gap] 2+4 is very negative if you backdash the gap and you can full combo punish with B2,3,2+4. If he does it from max range you could punish with ex Bowl Girl instead.

Fist Flurry is a hard knockdown and after that he will probably mix you up with B2,1 (overhead starter) and B3 (low starter). Its tough to deal with and you're not realistically going to fuzzy that but it's just slow enough that maybe you can react to it with practice. You could try waking up with ex BF3 in that situation if you want.

His 2,1 is pretty strong AA, so you may want to be conservative with ranged jump-ins if he uses that.

Hope that helps you out some.