General/Other - Cutthroat Kano's Cutthroat Variation Discussion Thread

[OmeMark]

Wonder if anyone is going to use it again now. Since the damage got lowered I hear nothing but complaints.
I'd rather use my bars for the db1's or kanoballs.

 

[HuttonMD]

Wonder if anyone is going to use it again now. Since the damage got lowered I hear nothing but complaints.
I'd rather use my bars for the db1's or kanoballs.

I think it has its uses. Yea you loose life but you can still use it at beginning of round or to close out match and in the corner it really shines but the option to use it is there and I'm still gonna use it I just feel the extra damage is worth it in certain situations.

 

[FlappyDaniel]

It's an option; just not a very high priority one.

 

[Dukmunky]

Kano (CutThroat) - Adjusted the armor frames of Charge Up to compensate for the faster startup
So what does this new patch bring us then? I don't quite understand.

Just the armor working as it did before the patch. It was bugged and wouldn't work consistently

 

[PGFX| McDougie]

I need help fighting jax

Not sure how to fight pumped up or wrestler at all


I try to be the aggresser but it never works out for me

 

[Zatoichi]

Against Jax, I just use Commando and attempt to parry his pressure.

 

[MsMiharo]

Against Jax, I just use Commando and attempt to parry his pressure.

Both commando and cyber are good choices. Parries and ex reversals grabs are great though

 

[Youphemism]

Just realised something, not sure if you Cutthroat mains already know about it though. Johnny Cage can't punish DB1 since his fastest move is 8 frames (his D1) so you can abuse it in blockstrings to technically keep yourself safe.

 

[I$AAC]

This is footage of me using Cutthroat against @AoK Ryan yesterday. He was using BG/SG Kotal, KW Goro, abd Tempest Lao.

 

[MsMiharo]

Just realised something, not sure if you Cutthroat mains already know about it though. Johnny Cage can't punish DB1 since his fastest move is 8 frames (his D1) so you can abuse it in blockstrings to technically keep yourself safe.

pew pew http://testyourmight.com/threads/db1-safety-vs-the-whole-cast.56446/

Takeda, Erron, JC, Jason, Kenshi, Kitana can do a whole bunch of nothing against it.

 

[Youphemism]

pew pew http://testyourmight.com/threads/db1-safety-vs-the-whole-cast.56446/

Takeda, Erron, JC, Jason, Kenshi, Kitana can do a whole bunch of nothing against it.

Oh yeah right, duh, I forgot about that thread lol. Woops

 

[MsMiharo]

Oh yeah right, duh, I forgot about that thread lol. Woops

It happens to the best of us. Oh yeah and you as well

 

[Youphemism]

It happens to the best of us. Oh yeah and you as well

Fite me bruh

 

[MsMiharo]

Fite me bruh

Knife fite

 

[Redux]

i've been dabbling in cyber Kano a bit and am wondering if b1 is his most reliable punisher? Also how do you guys feel about 112 having an armorable gap, almost couldn't believe it when I found out lol.

 

[bdizzle2700]

i've been dabbling in cyber Kano a bit and am wondering if b1 is his most reliable punisher? Also how do you guys feel about 112 having an armorable gap, almost couldn't believe it when I found out lol.

It is. If 112 cant punish. B1 will. 112 having a gap isnt a big deal for me. I use it for punishes and and maybe jump ins to pressure. But ill do more like 11 pause to see what they do.if they hold it expecting the 2 now i know

 

[OmeMark]

What do you guys use as opening move? Most of the time when the match starts I choose for either: backdash (against Takeda for example) or F4,BF3 (especially against low level players). So any other good tips? Or...

 

[Jupe]

What do you guys use as opening move? Most of the time when the match starts I choose for either: backdash (against Takeda for example) or F4,BF3 (especially against low level players). So any other good tips? Or...

I switch around starting with d4, jump back and air ball if they also jumped, walk back or backdash, block or crouch block, run in and grab, and I almost always backdash agaisnt takeda, f/t and kung jin.

I don't think I use f4 to start the game anymore at least consciously, I used to but I got punished for it whiffing or just losing to too much stuff. It might still be viable to start with f4, but you definitely want to special cancel it to db1 as it's a lot safer on block and on hit it gives you just a little bit less damage.

 

[NHDR]

@Jupe

Sorry if I misunderstood your post but F4 is safer on block than DB1, I believe. Definitely cancel into DB1 if you can hit-confirm F4 in time.

 

[Jupe]

@Jupe

Sorry if I misunderstood your post but F4 is safer on block than DB1, I believe. Definitely cancel into DB1 if you can hit-confirm F4 in time.

Yes that is correct, I was referring to his f4,bf3 start. f4db1 is denifitely safer than f4bf3.

 

[kobrafan79]

Am i the only person who thinks that removing health drain from ex charge up he would jump up a into the a+ tier with everyone else cause he could use its armor effectively and take advantage of the frames and mix up potential it gives?

 

[bdizzle2700]

Am i the only person who thinks that removing health drain from ex charge up he would jump up a into the a+ tier with everyone else cause he could use its armor effectively and take advantage of the frames and mix up potential it gives?

Nope. It would help but i doubt a tier. Better but not that high

 

[Zatoichi]

Cutthroat just needs the hotfix nerfs removed.

Also found a 2 bar Midscreen combo that does about 48%.

b12 xx Charge Up, 112 Black Dragon Ball cancel, f212 f212 run 112 Kano ball.


NO IDEA if this is already known.

 

[MsMiharo]

Cutthroat just needs the hotfix nerfs removed.

Also found a 2 bar Midscreen combo that does about 48%.

b12 xx Charge Up, 112 Black Dragon Ball cancel, f212 f212 run 112 Kano ball.


NO IDEA if this is already known.

b12 xx Charge up, f212 rc 11 bf1 112 EX db1 rc b12 ball is 53%.

 

[Youphemism]

Am i the only person who thinks that removing health drain from ex charge up he would jump up a into the a+ tier with everyone else cause he could use its armor effectively and take advantage of the frames and mix up potential it gives?

Yeah he probably would be A tier. 50/50s (METERLESSLY NEUTRAL /PLUS ON BLOCK 50/50s at that), great damage both meterless (since he gets a meterless launcher in this variation) and with meter, general safety on pretty much everything, decent pressure, flash parry, great footsie tools. I don't see why he wouldn't be A tier if they took off the health drain on ex buff tbh.

b12 xx Charge up, f212 rc 11 bf1 112 EX db1 rc b12 ball is 53%.

BF1? Do you mean DB1? Lol