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yeah quite badmournful kitana vs balanced kenshi is in kenshi favor?
yeah quite badmournful kitana vs balanced kenshi is in kenshi favor?
how Tho? After my first glave on hit kenshi cant put out a projection before i can throw another one. Or is there more to it?yeah quite bad
liu kang can crew armor super fast and a blocked fbf4 can put quan out of his spells, it is bad for quan.There are some inconsistencies but for the most part it seems to be a pretty honest tier list. I agree with FF Liu/Sorc Quan being in favor of Liu.
Surprised by the Tremor results.
yea its 6 months oldWow. I hope everyone takes this with a grain of salt. How can one scene know match-ups for every single character in the game? Do you have the highest possible level vs the highest possible level of play for all these characters?
I really hope everyone does not take this as gospel. I see some horrendous numbers in that chart. Hish-qu-ten going even with bone shaper? (biggest inaccuracy in the chart) Theory fighting at its finest and that is all it is.
Game is not even 5 months old.
If you change the numbers from the "6/4" / "5/5" format to a "6" or a "4" you can just do a formula at the end of the rows to add them all up automatically. just type in "sum=" and select it all. That way you don't need to keep adding this up. Google docs is reading the current numbers as dates so you can't do this. Just decide whether the number refers to the row or the column. And if you only fill out one half of the matrix (the other half is a mirror image anyway) you'll save yourself a bunch of work.I understand her matchups fairly well but I need more xp tbh
You are describing things that Raiden does to every character, none of that is specific to Johnny. By that logic, Raiden beats everyone.Thunder god is pretty hard for Cage as he builds a lot of meter, puts you in the corner, but mainly because he can convert so much damage from his armoured reversal and leave you standing in the corner. @YOMI MITYEAP
Maybe my rundown of raiden was not specific to Johnny but when its applied it reflects heavily on the matchup. Cage is a risky character and thrives on respect. Characters that get fuck all from their reversals are less risk for cage to frame trap when they have bar, so they wont be as tempted to throw their bar away for a frame trap. Raidens meter reversals have to be baited or you risk losing 40% and when hes on the offence he doesnt need to use bar, and can keep building it for reversals. Against Lao's frame trap with MB hat he cant armour out and needs to be respected, opening up Lao's offense. This isnt the defining factor in the matchup as Kung Laos mobility and neutral game trump raiden somewhat, but when frame traps are all you have it becomes a big factor. I never said that I think raiden beats everyone, but i would like some yomi word on why he loses to cage.You are describing things that Raiden does to every character, none of that is specific to Johnny. By that logic, Raiden beats everyone.
Boneshaper was never the worst in the game lol. That title always belonged to Goro.Remember when shinnok was the worst character in the game? Lol
What makes you think she loses?@YOMI REO
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Found something to correct.
Ermac vs Jacqui. For ermac you have it as a 5/5 but for Jacqui you have it as a 4/6 that she loses. I do also believe it's 6/4 for ermac. You'll need to fix it on his end.
Also, who is yomi's dedicated ermac player? Or who was giving his input?
That would make sense if my reversals were safe. But they are not.Maybe my rundown of raiden was not specific to Johnny but when its applied it reflects heavily on the matchup. Cage is a risky character and thrives on respect. Characters that get fuck all from their reversals are less risk for cage to frame trap when they have bar, so they wont be as tempted to throw their bar away for a frame trap. Raidens meter reversals have to be baited or you risk losing 40% and when hes on the offence he doesnt need to use bar, and can keep building it for reversals. Against Lao's frame trap with MB hat he cant armour out and needs to be respected, opening up Lao's offense. This isnt the defining factor in the matchup as Kung Laos mobility and neutral game trump raiden somewhat, but when frame traps are all you have it becomes a big factor. I never said that I think raiden beats everyone, but i would like some yomi word on why he loses to cage.
It's been barely 4 months since April 14yea its 6 months old
How are you liking ninjitsu scorpion? I think it's better than hellfire now. Do you agree?Also just to make this clear, we have many characters repped at a high lvl here at YOMI, we know the characters as well or better than any scene and I am confident saying that.
Im not saying raiden wins or loses, i want a good reason on why its 6-4 from the guys that wrote the tier list. The risk reward is even on both sides I agree, but against like Dvorah where her escape option isnt a combo im not really too bothered if she wants to use her bars to get me off her. Launching armour is a big pain for cage because im not opening you up with h/l guessing, i have to know (read) what you are going to do and answer appropriately. D4 is a good tool to start offense with a blockstring and potentially a throw, the answer you have to that blockstring is to launch me with your armour, and the yomi levels start to build up from there. I dont disagree with anything you have said, i just dont think that its a 6-4.That would make sense if my reversals were safe. But they are not.
If I choose to EX shocker through a frame trap, I run the risk of being low profiled and then punished, or blocked and then punished. The risk / reward is even on both sides.
Btw EX shocker leads to 32% max, not 40%, don't exaggerate, Raiden is not Ermac. In fact, most of the time Raiden is going to go for EXdb3 because it doesn't get low profiled as easily, and that only leads to 24% for 1 bar which let's be honest is not very good damage wise.
Your d4 dominates Raiden in neutral, it's difficult for me to even touch you without committing to a hard read because that button beats everything I do and if it hits me I'm -22. If all I'm doing is building meter on you for reversals then I've already lost the game. I'd rather be hitting you, not building meter with blocked lightning strings.
Kenshi gets 33% from a reversal/wakeup EX db1 but that match is still 6-4 for Raiden because he's putting his health bar on the line every time he goes for it. It's the same thing for Raiden against Johnny.
Hmm, I always thought this was a bad MU for her or at best 5-5. But then again I have beaten many Kenshis in tournament with her, its just I used to think they weren't playing the MU correctly. I still think I gotta play it more tho so for the moment I'll roll with it, maybe it is 6-4 her lolSorry but Cassie beats kenshi