He doesn't have a low starter, he has a good low hit D4 and a sweep B4 but that's it. You can 1-1-3-nut. Those are his only low options. If his frame data is to be believed his D1 is very good. I tend to 1-1-3-nut to get them to expect it, then D1, D4 endlessly until they block low then straight into F2-4-D1-F3-nut and start over haha
It's a little tough to get the nutpunch restand. Gotta be quick with the 3,3,3 string.. Enjoy :3Nice, i was using f24 d1 njp 12 12xx np and some variations for about 30%... changing to that one now!!
ive deemed A list to be as of now probably the only really viable variation.. stunt has some nice dmg but you have no way of effective pressuring so unless you want to stay zoning i suggest everyone try to get used to a list for now and pray for something tight that we havent found yet or for elder gods (paulo) to bless us with sonya buffs rofl jk
I've been winning lots with stunt double, use shadows for pressure tools! Remember your counter pokes! Learn to hitconfirm f3 into nutpunch! A list is whacky and the pressure feels worse than Stryker gun cancels
nah i got it down pretty good.. and the poking isnt like mk9 bruh. this games pretty mashy atm for some ppl.
Sure it is! Some Pokes are godlike but some are minus. Easily can reverse the pressure by punishing a poke
some pokes are + on block m8
And those can be whiff punished via f3
I dont agree with this, I feel like A-list has very legit pressure that takes full of advantage of people standing (standing 4 xx Shadow Kick ~ RC is +14-+15) f4 f24 d1 f3(my a-list bnb off f4 or a f3~RC) is really easy to do and gets really good damage. Those with some tighter execution playing fisticuffs or stunt double can do f24 d1 f24 d1 f3xxNut punch (if i remember correctly it does 28% no meter) as for your corner combo with full mimics you can do f24 d1 4 upclone 4 upclone 12 333 ex nut punch f3 nut punch for 50%
Is our situation really so bleak that we need buffs to make our character more viable? Is it so evident that Johnny is not capable to go toe to toe with the (as of now) higher-tiered characters such as D'vorah, Kung Jin, and Sub-Zero?
its too early to tell i mean i think everyone in the game is pretty good. but there will always be a low tier in every game. and i havent found anything yet that really changes things once ppl learn the mu and learn they can fuzzy 113 easily without falling for overhead gimmicks the matches get pretty tough to open ppl up. but like i said its early so ima keep on grinding and trying to produce something for my fellow cagers.
Fisticuffs is the only variation I was interested in and he simply doesn't have the tools or mix ups that so many of the other characters have. I'm tired of being spammed out especially without dash block, and once you know his overhead string he really doesn't have anything to mix up with and even if you get a nutshot its not a free jump in with block string how it used to be. So my question to you guys is who should I switch to? I'm wondering who has the most mix ups and tools. Sonya looks like she has freaking everything and KL and Cassie are looking strong too, any suggestions?
Play A-List Johnny? He has everything fisticuffs johnny has and more, run cancelling forward 3 4 on block leads to a tricky mix up, you can go for a f 2 4 or a 1 1 3 or even a throw.Okay guys, I'm officially dropping Cage
This is my bnb! (minus the ex nutpunch) Thanks
Keep your inputs clean, try not to repeatedly click buttons in an attempt to mash it out. Just practice offline, and if you can't land the second F24, then try F24 D1 F3 Nut Punch. Its good beginner stuff for getting a feel for his timing. Remember to buffer in Nut Punch right after you input F3.
