EGP Wonder_Chef
Official Quan Chi Nerf Demander™
Gen is NOWHERE NEAR as bad as Catwoman.Xian?
Gen is NOWHERE NEAR as bad as Catwoman.Xian?
Dhalsim/Abel? Rico/Art?Gen is NOWHERE NEAR as bad as Catwoman.
This isn't Street Fighter and the fact that 16 Bit constantly outplays his opponents makes his character dominant.No, you're probably right that she loses vs more than half the cast and wins almost no matchups.
I'm just saying as a community we should be embarassed that we let a character like that sort of dominate our tournament scene (next to theo) because in something like the Street Fighter community, we would never see that.
Now he is.Gen is NOWHERE NEAR as bad as Catwoman.
Maybe 16 bit is better than anyone who uses Cyborg. Also, if you look at Bit's path, he isn't getting any of CW's super hard MUs until later in the tournament.Well let's be honest, she doesn't even have as many winning matches as CYBORG (Grundy, Frost, Green Lantern, and Joker among possibly others,) and probably loses less too (I'm not sure Cyborg has 15 losing matchups) yet the community is good enough at the Cyborg matchup to make sure he has never gotten top 8.
Considering we can shut Catwoman down even harder, we really should all learn the matchup better and actually do it.
Kudos to Bit though for winning with a char that is literally worse than Cyborg, that takes a lot of skill.
Player skill has nothing to do with placing in a tournament. It's all based on how good the character is. Why would you even argue with him?Maybe 16 bit is better than anyone who uses Cyborg. Also, if you look at Bit's path, he isn't getting any of CW's super hard MUs until later in the tournament.
Since when the fuck did Cyborg beat Joker?Well let's be honest, she doesn't even have as many winning matches as CYBORG (Grundy, Frost, Green Lantern, and Joker among possibly others,) and probably loses less too (I'm not sure Cyborg has 15 losing matchups) yet the community is good enough at the Cyborg matchup to make sure he has never gotten top 8.
Considering we can shut Catwoman down even harder, we really should all learn the matchup better and actually do it.
Kudos to Bit though for winning with a char that is literally worse than Cyborg, that takes a lot of skill.
Yeah but she loses to HALF of the ENTIRE CAST, including basically all of the top tiers. That's pretty fucking terrible you know? Are you saying a character THAT BAD should really be winning this much? There is a 50% chance that Bit runs into a bad matchup every tournament match he gets, can you imagine trying to play through a tournament with a character like that, and then consistently placing better than you currently do? Do you think you could do that? Do you think that should even be possible?Maybe 16 bit is better than anyone who uses Cyborg. Also, if you look at Bit's path, he isn't getting any of CW's super hard MUs until later in the tournament.
Haha I respect this post.Now he is.
He didn't run into aqua, bane or sinestro. 4-6s are winnable, especially for a good player.Yeah but she loses to HALF of the ENTIRE CAST, including basically all of the top tiers. That's pretty fucking terrible you know? Are you saying a character THAT BAD should really be winning this much? There is a 50% chance that Bit runs into a bad matchup every tournament match he gets, can you imagine trying to play through a tournament with a character like that, and then consistently placing better than you currently do? Do you think you could do that? Do you think that should even be possible?
Haha I respect this post.
Of course 4-6s are winnable, but nobody is perfect.He didn't run into aqua, bane or sinestro. 4-6s are winnable, especially for a good player.
I mean, 16 bit placed two slots higher than me at MLG and one slot below me at SCR. Bit's path: 4x4, Big boi, Fox, Tyrant, Whitboy, Theo. All of those MUs are fine except Theo. It is what it is. If Bit had to play me or theo earlier than he might not have placed. Likewise if I had Ducky's path (Whiteboi and then King) I probably would not have placed. That's just how it works.Of course 4-6s are winnable, but nobody is perfect.
Are you saying that Bit is so much better than you, that he uses a considerably worse character, consistently places better, and there's nothing the community can do about it because Bit is such a godlike player?
Why don't I get a notification when people tag me?I just figure she out footsies him pretty bad since his backwalk speed is awful and his normals kind of suck. She even goes under b+1 with b+3 easily. Plus I don't know what he's supposed to do about her jumping back. Who knows though.
@4x4lo8o actually plays this MU pretty good on Ares' end. He was blocking my usual shenanigans. He said he actually had MU exp against her.
I described you to my brother as "someone who always seems to get the shit end of situations" yesterday.She has a bunch of other stupid shit she can do against Ares wake ups but I'll let catwoman player figure it out themselves in case I don't get dq'd next time I run into 16 Bit in the brackets.
I think bracketology is a major factor to most players success. Maybe if Bit had to have played Cowboy and not Tyrant then it would have been different but thats not how things were set up.Of course 4-6s are winnable, but nobody is perfect.
Are you saying that Bit is so much better than you, that he uses a considerably worse character, consistently places better, and there's nothing the community can do about it because Bit is such a godlike player?
From what it looks like, 16bit posted first and then edited in your tag, and tags don't notify if they're edited in.Why don't I get a notification when people tag me?
RIP Super into Ultra. It was never allowed to live.Now he is.
That's the least of his nerfs, he would've been just as viable if that was the only change. No hard knockdown without meter, no decent setups with delayed wakeup, hands nerfed, damage nerfed, ex waterfall gimmicks nerfed, etc.RIP Super into Ultra. It was never allowed to live.
I don't mean to play the victim, but it does feel like I've had a lot shitty tournament experiences that are beyond my control. I'm sorta reconsidering going to Evo and traveling in the future.I described you to my brother as "someone who always seems to get the shit end of situations" yesterday.
16bit is top tier, nrs should normalize him hahaHow, as a community, do we let such a shitty character like this place so well so consistently? Are we all just generally low level?
I don't know why it always happens to you...I don't mean to play the victim, but it does feel like I've had a lot shitty tournament experiences that are beyond my control. I'm sorta reconsidering going to Evo and traveling in the future.
Ugh I know. If she had flash walk speed it would definitely be 5-5I agree with MMH being 6-4, I didn't realize how bad her walk forward speed was and trait 3 negates her j2, his good backdash and walkback speed also allow him to turtle and zone her out pretty badly.