The Reason GA's Arrows do 0.1% on chip, 1% on hit.

[miloPKL]

I admit that Revolver's opinion about GA vs Lex is different from my view that Lex mops up GA, but I don't agree with you that he is of the exact same opinion as you: He says that he thinks it's in Lex's favor and would have been 7-3 Lex if it wasn't for the quick fire rate of arrows. You also make general statement:

Maybe his raw arrows are somewhat useful against Lex (I don't like the "trade" of having to shoot 100 arrows to keep Lex in check just to miss time/miss space/have your opponent read you a couple of times to even up the damage. Since raw arrows do no damage and chipp and a lot of them are required in the matchup, I feel like a lot more correct guesses are required from the GA). But you make a general statement, and there are a lot of matchups where his arrows are much more useless. Fire arrows grants you 3 stocked projectiles, 8% on hit and then you have to deal with wake ups. I don't really feel that's good when you can react to an overhead arrow easily. Ice arrow is good I agree.

yeah the last 10% of my post was general because i already explained myself in the rest of the post and i also prefaced it with the "AS A LEX PLAYER"

 

[NRF CharlieMurphy]

I want to know what the "up players" say.

I agree with cossner

not in your wildest dreams does he beat WW.

 

[rev0lver]

No. It's as I've said before, everyone thinks their character beats GA and yet also thinks GA is still good. 7L and Chris G have created a myopia about the character. Even the worst characters in Injustice are still okay, but everything is an uphill battle for him. I expect him in time to drop below Shazam on the tier list and be rated only above Joker.

7l's matchup chart put him around lex which i could agree with. he's only on bottom when.... you know...

 

[EGP Wonder_Chef]

Did you realize if you put the time you dedicate to following me around and failing to troll me on a message board into practicing the game instead, you might actually win a WNF? Heck - you might even beat a Superman player!

I've beaten both top 8 evo superman at WNF in tournament, AND I've beaten the two other top 8 evo players that I've fought in tournament.

Who are you again?

 

[Duck Nation]

I've beaten both top 8 evo superman at WNF in tournament, AND I've beaten the two other top 8 evo players that I've fought in tournament.

Who are you again?

Somebody who's much, much more adept at making people angry over the internet than you are.

 

[Cossner]

zatanna is also bottom so don't forget her when you're placing ga.

She beats GA.

He also doesn't have a lot of heavily disadvantage MUs. The worst ones are probably Grundy, Bane, and maybe Lex.

I actually think Bane isn't bad at all. No he loses hard (IMO) to Zod, Aquaman, NW, MMH, Superman, Raven, KF and maybe Batgirl and Sinestro.

who are you again?

That was low. That's something douchebag Cossner would do, that's bad.
But Duck Nation just tone it down a tiny bit.

not in your wildest dreams does he beat WW.

I feel GA controls the game as he should in that MU. WW can't do shit, and GA can actually punish everything she does. I love playing that MU, it's almost as if GA has options.

 

[Alien Substance]

Guys, let's all settle down and get back to Green Arrow's unfortunate situation.

 

[Cossner]

EGP Wonder_Chef, you've played GA a few times and you've beaten Chris G. What do you think about this?
Also AK GamerBlake, I've played a shit ton against you vs. Batman, do you think GA's arrows are too stronk with that 1% .1% chip swag?

 

[RM Truth]

EGP Wonder_Chef, you've played GA a few times and you've beaten Chris G. What do you think about this?
Also @GamerBlake90, I've played a shit ton against you vs. Batman, do you think GA's arrows are too stronk with that 1% .1% chip swag?

AK GamerBlake.

I've blown him up a few times because he said once that GA outzones Batman.

 

[RM Truth]

She beats GA.
I actually think Bane isn't bad at all. No he loses hard (IMO) to Zod, Aquaman, NW, MMH, Superman, Raven, KF and maybe Batgirl and Sinestro.

I can agree with Zod and Aquaman, but I don't think the others are worse then 4-6.

 

[GamerBlake90]

EGP Wonder_Chef, you've played GA a few times and you've beaten Chris G. What do you think about this?
Also AK GamerBlake, I've played a shit ton against you vs. Batman, do you think GA's arrows are too stronk with that 1% .1% chip swag?

I don't. Trades favor Batman.

AK GamerBlake.

I've blown him up a few times because he said once that GA outzones Batman.

I told you a million times, I never said that. I have never seen reason to be worried about Green Arrow as Batman. I don't know where you're getting this from - either I said it out of salt and forgot or you've mixed up your facts.

 

[RM Truth]

I don't. Trades favor Batman.





I told you a million times, I never said that. I have never seen reason to be worried about Green Arrow as Batman. I don't know where you're getting this from - either I said it out of salt and forgot or you've mixed up your facts.

It's probably the former. You don't have to get defensive about it. You know I love blowing you up because I care.

 

[testyourpatience]

She beats GA.

zatanna doesn't BEAT anyone. she has the same problem that harley does against ga. making ga's trait do more chip would just be insult to injury in that match

 

[GamerBlake90]

It's probably the former. You don't have to get defensive about it. You know I love blowing you up because I care.

Screw you.

 

[Cossner]

I can agree with Zod and Aquaman, but I don't think the others are worse then 4-6.

NW can control the game full screen with sparks and shit, if you get mid screen, wingdings and if you somehow manage to get close enough flying grayson. A rushdown NW loses, a zoning NW completely destroys GA.

MMH completely shuts down whatever GA tries to do, it's not even funny. The punish you get for his shit is minimal compared to what he gets for risking it all the time. You load an arrow? Teleport. You shoot an arrow? Teleport. You dash in? Super normal with a 10 mile reach. Jimmypotato can explain this better than I can.

Superman you can make a case out of, but at the end of the day, you cannot throw arrows all day to save your life. You screw up once you get 1/4 of your life gone. He screws up *knockdown 1% gone*. Up close, his game is way better than GAs and in corner his damage is ridiculous.

Raven is a massive pain in the butt. If you even think about holding 4 she's already punishing you. Keep away Ravens like Ducky's completely body Arrow, since he can't get in, and he doesn't have any fast midscreen punishers.

KF you need to chase. She outzones GA with Iceberg so don't even think about taking arrows out. If you come in it's a guess between F3 and Slide, she obviously has all the broken stuff, but since half of GAs game is off, you're limited to rushing down. Where he loses.

You cannot throw arrows at Batgirl either, her rushdown is better, her 5050s are better, her jump ins beat even Arrow's j1. She's a pain in the ass HUH.

zatanna doesn't BEAT anyone. she has the same problem that harley does against ga. making ga's trait do more chip would just be insult to injury in that match

Mr. Mileena and AspyxiaDyslexia-, does Zatanna lose to GA?

 

[EGP Wonder_Chef]

EGP Wonder_Chef, you've played GA a few times and you've beaten Chris G. What do you think about this?

I don't even really understand what is being argued here.

 

[Cossner]

I don't even really understand what is being argued here.

That Arrow's arrows doing 1% on hit, .1% on chip is ballsack.

 

[7L]

Can someone tell me who GA beats?

Not Grundy c:

 

[juicepouch]

has there ever been a thread on this site where players don't try and pull rank on each other?

 

[EGP Wonder_Chef]

That Arrow's arrows doing 1% on hit, .1% on chip is ballsack.

what would you prefer

 

[Cossner]

what would you prefer

Clean, post shower ballsack. Not hairy homeless ballsack.

 

[RM Truth]

Clean, post shower ballsack. Not hairy homeless ballsack.

I liked this comment so much that a mere button click is not enough to express it.

 

[7L]

what would you prefer

It's fine, they are extremely positive. At least +25 on hit and +3 on block. Do you really want to get hit by 3-4% and 1% on block and still be at disadvantage. I think all of the characters that have big chip projectiles are either highs or very punishable if you do them point blank. If arrow does an arrow in your face, he's safe and then he can d1 savage blast and he's out of there.


The chip and damage are reasonable. I wouldn't mind 2% normal arrow on hit, but I'm not complaining about them.

This thread has too many people thinking Arrow is bad. I don't like it. See you all at NEC.

 

[DarkPage]

Green Arrow WW match up is the only match up ive had a good amount of experience with offline and decent amount online, and id say its pretty even all depending on who gets the life lead. I used to think it was in Green Arrows favor tho.

 

[Mr. Mileena]

Cossner, I think it's even at the moment.