Guide Shazam BnB combo thread Oct 2013

[Mortal Komhat]

ew, fraud execution tips and needless AC combos. not what this thread needs. and is that miss information im reading -.-
man Piggy is right. Maybe i should make a Shazam general information guide so we arnt the scrubbiest community anymore

We'll always be the scrubbiest community. We have callouts and shit-talk each other constantly without sharing any sort of tech whatsoever.

 

[KC H0oKsw0rds]

1 bar? No meter? 2 bars? All bars?

All bars anywhere on screen

 

[ZigZag]

There's a typo in the Ji3 Combo section one of the combo's say Hi3 just to let you know ^_^

MashPotatoTower

 

[iShinnok03]

Sexy unnecessary combos incoming

51% 2 bars midscreen:

B23 (only hit with 3) AC MB 3 xx HM MB B3 J2 2 xx AC

51% 2 bars corner:

B23 3 xx AC MB 3 xx HM MB J3 xx AC

52% 2 bars midscreen (old one):

F223 xx AC MB 3 xx HM MB J3 2 xx AC

59% 4 bars midscreen:

F223 xx B3 MB B3 J3 J2 2 xx AC MB 3 xx HM MB J3 2 xx AC

68% 2 bars @ left side of Metropolis Street:

J3 3 xx AC MB 3 xx HM MB J3 bullets B3 F2 xx AC

 

[KC H0oKsw0rds]

J3 3HMmb b3 j3ACmb 3HM=58% midscreen 2 bars

 

[zoofs]

J3 3HMmb b3 j3ACmb 3HM=58% midscreen 2 bars

useless

 

[KC H0oKsw0rds]

useless

Not useless. D3 sets up ambiguous nj3. D3, dash up straddling opponent and nj3 early hits front, nj3 delayed in air hits cross up. It's legit, unless you play a vanilla Shazam...

 

[KC H0oKsw0rds]

I wouldn't just naked ji3 over using a ji2 dummy

 

[Shawi]

useless

Yeah that's a combo to follow up a d3. Dash forward and do nj3

 

[zoofs]

Yeah that's a combo to follow up a d3. Dash forward and do nj3

its still pretty much useless and gimmicky

 

[KC H0oKsw0rds]

its still pretty much useless and gimmicky

My bad, I didn't know Shazam isn't supposed to use gimmicks... I'll just retreat after d3, no command grab, no ji, no nothing.

 

[zoofs]

My bad, I didn't know Shazam isn't supposed to use gimmicks... I'll just retreat after d3, no command grab, no ji, no nothing.

command grab is less gimmicky

 

[Uber]

It is useless. With J2 you can get 52% with one bar. Two bars will get you around 60%. If I'm not mistaken, you get the same dash in crossup from J2 after sweep.

This J3 combo might also be punishable on block. Do they have time to punish after you whiff that first command throw on block?

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[MashPotatoTower]

so im thinking about adding the most viable or damaging combo paths from 2 bars. can we all agree that they are:
( basically spending second bar on ACmb than useing 3HM or 12HM with trait. Also 2AC for alt knockdown )
Examples
HMmb b3 ji2 ji2 2ACmb 2AC 46%
HMmb b3 ji2 ji2 2ACmb 3HM 48%
trait HMmb b3 ji3 2ACmb 12HM 54%
trait HMmb b3 ji3 2ACmb 2AC 51%

trait Ji2 F22 / HMmb b3 ji3 2ACmb 12HM 70%

 

[ZigZag]

I believe these should be the bounce interactable BnB's
They are the best damage/Setup wise I think.

 

[MashPotatoTower]

J3 3HMmb b3 j3ACmb 3HM=58% midscreen 2 bars

man this combo is the bees knees
with trait: J3 3HMmb b3 j3ACmb 12HM=65%

 

[MashPotatoTower]

I believe these should be the bounce interactable BnB's
They are the best damage/Setup wise I think.

yes! I was gonna add them a few weeks ago but totally forgot im gonna add the meterless ones cuz they are the most obvious ones. you video looks cool, ill try em out and see if i can get a little more

 

[ZigZag]

yes! I was gonna add them a few weeks ago but totally forgot im gonna add the meterless ones cuz they are the most obvious ones. you video looks cool, ill try em out and see if i can get a little more

I think we've covered all the BnBs that make sense, now i'm trying to just brush up on those which people don't land too often but once in a while it would be nice to have a BnB incase you do.

Thanks ^_^
The meterless one is good damage being 37%
Also the 1 bar combo which allows for a dash under AC giving you a chance for another 50/50 I thought was cool.

 

[KC H0oKsw0rds]

It is useless. With J2 you can get 52% with one bar. Two bars will get you around 60%. If I'm not mistaken, you get the same dash in crossup from J2 after sweep.

This J3 combo might also be punishable on block. Do they have time to punish after you whiff that first command throw on block?

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J3 on block is -3 I believe with pushback. Also you cannot preemptive dial j3 3HM because the j3 on hit stuns Shazam heavily. It has to be:
J3, (confirm hit) 3xxHM. If you confirm block j3, then you must defer because you're at -3 and get d1ed.
Edit: Don't know if you can get d1ed with j3 pushback.

 

[zoofs]

I think we've covered all the BnBs that make sense, now i'm trying to just brush up on those which people don't land too often but once in a while it would be nice to have a BnB incase you do.

Thanks ^_^
The meterless one is good damage being 37%
Also the 1 bar combo which allows for a dash under AC giving you a chance for another 50/50 I thought was cool.

the one background bounce combo i always use is j2, f22 bgb, b3, j3, f223 hm and i believe its 44% meterless, you can also mb the hm for a reset or to go for max damage

you should be able to end in ac as well, but i just always go for the reset

 

[MashPotatoTower]

J3 on block is -3 I believe with pushback. Also you cannot preemptive dial j3 3HM because the j3 on hit stuns Shazam heavily.

what if i told you it can be done with ease by simply mashing 3 exactly 5 times?

 

[ZigZag]

the one background bounce combo i always use is j2, f22 bgb, b3, j3, f223 hm and i believe its 44% meterless, you can also mb the hm for a reset or to go for max damage

you should be able to end in ac as well, but i just always go for the reset

Ahhh Damn yeah of course you can B3 off bgb even with shazam's terrible b3, yeah that should pick up more meterless damage, also I'd always end it in AC for reset possibilities.

 

[ZigZag]

J3 on block is -3 I believe with pushback. Also you cannot preemptive dial j3 3HM because the j3 on hit stuns Shazam heavily. It has to be:
J3, (confirm hit) 3xxHM. If you confirm block j3, then you must defer because you're at -3 and get d1ed.
Edit: Don't know if you can get d1ed with j3 pushback.

Who has a 3 frame d1..?

 

[MashPotatoTower]

the one background bounce combo i always use is j2, f22 bgb, b3, j3, f223 hm and i believe its 44%

its 42%. with f223 you get 1% more for 43%, but f22bg pretty good for keeping within the range of the bg.

 

[zoofs]

Ahhh Damn yeah of course you can B3 off bgb even with shazam's terrible b3, yeah that should pick up more meterless damage, also I'd always end it in AC for reset possibilities.

i end in hm mb so i can either sweep or dash under and jump over

and MashPotatoTower i use f22 for the easier bgb and f223 also whiffs sometimes im pretty sure