DarthArma
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I guess it's just different from player to player. Whenever i play i zatanna i feel comfortable in what to look for setup-wise and what my blocking options are
Flash vs GL is 5-5
She was deigned with her normals and walk speed in mind. She isn't meant to be a fundamentally strong character, which is why her neutral game is tricky to get to grips with. He gimmicks are great, and I don't know what Zatanna you're playing but most her mix-ups aren't punishable, and 50/50's can't be fuzzy guarded.
complete nonsense? I wouldn't say that. I say bane, flash, supes, and sinestro all are viable for that last top 5 spot imo.
What the fuck did i just watch. Also to stay on topic. This List is not bad. I agree with it for the most part. Although i still Bane is too High. But whatever.
How? GL has to take way more risks in the match.
I dunno how many times I said this but I'll say it again. Bane has too many losing/debatable losing MUs to be a top 5 character.
I'm not sure what makes you think that. GL has good zoning. He keeps flash out much better than the majority of the cast. His B1 is far better than any of my normals so I always have to respect it. I basically have to attack only after I block something that's negative if you play the MU correctly.
I complain about people upplaying Harley because she is still being upplayed.
I agree with "kinetic balding = caillou"
Exactly. The thing is after that attack you might never have to block for the rest if the match. And GL has to constantly spend meter zoning. I have to respect your wake ups you don't have to respect mine. In the corner it's done. You have better mixups, better oki in the match. My average damage and yours are about the same. You also have some of the best interact able control.
I don't see how her zoning is better than sinestro... At all. If anything they're mostly equal. Her rings do 6%... Fear blast does 6%. Her MB ring toss is 13%... Sinestro's is 12.5%... Seems like it's splitting hairs to me. We land a boulder and MB, we get to build trait... We land shackles, same thing or put her into vortex depending on distance. She lands a trance, puts you into vortex. I mean there's just risk vs reward and it all seems mostly equal to me. I'm not sure about her trait but if you touch her she's knocked out of it.
Her being fundamentally flawed is a reason why a character like Aquaman works her shit 7-3 at the least.
I mean u saying that is just u saying that lol, doesn't make it a fact. I could say "flash doesn't dominate enough characters so he can't be top 5", but that would just be me saying that. You are entitled to your opinion, doesn't mean it is right lol.
Her gimmicks are obsolete, so if some one is doing them then yeah of course they suck when you recognize them. But her actual mix-ups are the best in the game.
It's not just rings. Tele away and puppet master are in her favor as well. Think about it, she gets a vortex off of a full screen mb puppet master. Sinestro gets 11% into either a couple dash ups or 1/3 trait charge. Both of those cost a bar of meter. Those damage numbers on projectiles seem even, but we cant really trade too much or Z can makea read with tele
Let's say we're in the neutral game and you use a B13 minigun and I block it. You're now negative so let's say I use B22 RMS, cancel it into D12 LK and you block that. I'm now -5 and it's your turn to do something. A common misconception about the Flash is that people think he's always plus but a lot of the time I have to end a string into LK and once that's blocked I have to respect your next move. GL's air missiles are a really good zoning tool and you don't need to spend meter on them. When I get you in the corner it's more or less how it is for GL as it is for the rest of the cast lol. I dunno if you've watched gross but GL has a lot of OTG resets and he also has setups that completely ignore Flash's wakeups so yeah. Flash's interactable control isn't even that good. All I can really do is prevent you from using them in the neutral game but you can get free OTG damage from them. Your view on the MU seems really pessimistic, as if you have no options to what I can do but GL definitely has options. You just need to explore the MU further.
Me saying "Bane has losing/debatable losing MUs" isn't my opinion, it's a fact. I dunno how I put words in your mouth. I never implied you said anything. Bane's agreed upon losing MU's are Flash and Zatanna to my knowledge. His debatable losing MUs include Batman, Sinestro, Shazam, Superman, Lex and possibly others that I can't think of or I'm not aware of.I mean u saying that is just u saying that lol, doesn't make it a fact. I could say "flash doesn't dominate enough characters so he can't be top 5", but that would just be me saying that. You are entitled to your opinion, doesn't mean it is right lol.
Edit: game barely been out 2 yrs, can't settle that much in that time span anyways. There will be many unanswered questions once mkx comes out as we know what is going to happen by that time. I never said bane was top 5 either, just said he could be a candidate for it, but hey putting words in my mouth works well
There is no way batman is better than bane. Completely agree with your first 7 though
uh lmao, OK. Saying something is "nonsense" is definitely ur opinion, but hey whatever makes you happy. All I know is, u have no way of justifying that ur opinion is true. "It doesn't make sense" maybe not to you, but u are one person and u can't dictate what I say is "nonsense" because once again those are ur thoughts. We can agree to disagree, but u can't just say "oh that's nonsense" because that is bs by my book.
So I do b13 minigun you block, then you do b22 rmsc, then it's a 50/50 for you that potentially takes half of my life taking me to the corner for more 50/50s. Are you 100% sure it's a 5-5? The options are in your favor. And you can do d12 lk cancel also.
